Hey folks. First time posting and hoping for some advice.

I'm looking to play live again soon and was wondering how to handle getting the signal from my pedalboard through the DI output using the DI on my amp head. Reason I ask is because I run a Digitech Drop Pedal, an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe and an Ashdown Triple Shot with my Darkglass Microtubes 500 head, and I know that most venues like to DI the bass these days. But I need the effected sound to come through the DI.

I've experimented a little using the DI output on the head through to Logic X, but I'm only getting the amp signal, without the pedal sounds. I don't know if I need to run the pedals through the effects loop (if it's even safe to do so with the Triple Shot) or if there's some other method that I need to use to achieve this. It's especially important for songs using the Drop Pedal as I'm unable to cart around multiple instruments for different tunings and I need that signal to go to FOH to be in tune with the rest of the band.

Hope that's enough info. Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
 
Doesn't that amp have a pre/post button on it somewhere? For the DI I mean. I think the pre/post usually relates to the EQ. But on some amps it'll utilize that feature from the EQ and XLR.

If not, you could just tell the sound guy you need a DI from the amp as well as one from your board. Even better :thumbsup:
 
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Doesn't that amp have a pre/post button on it somewhere? For the DI I mean. I think the pre/post usually relates to the EQ. But on some amps it'll utilize that feature from the EQ and XLR.

If not, you could just tell the sound guy you need a DI from the amp as well as one from your board. Even better :thumbsup:
So it has a pre/post button for the cab sim but I couldn’t seem to get the effected signal through it regardless of what setting it was on. Not sure if it can be tweaked in the Darkglass Suite or not.

I’ll see what I can do, I suppose. Ideally I’d like to just mic the cab up but there we go.

Thanks for the advice!
 
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Thanks! Any recommendations for outboard DI boxes?
I’d get this, rugged, simple, proven brand:

Bear in mind: FOH gets the DRY signal, no contribution from the speakers, and preamp in your head!

A bit more costly, but allows massive control of what goes to FOH

I have its predecessor the Torpedo Cab M+ and love it: used it to go ampless to FOH, and sound EXACTLY like my amp.
 
I’d get this, rugged, simple, proven brand:

Bear in mind: FOH gets the DRY signal, no contribution from the speakers, and preamp in your head!

A bit more costly, but allows massive control of what goes to FOH

I have its predecessor the Torpedo Cab M+ and love it: used it to go ampless to FOH, and sound EXACTLY like my amp.
Thank you so much!
 
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Thanks! Any recommendations for outboard DI boxes?

Whirlwind makes some great, affordable DI boxes. Hard to go wrong with just about anything from Radial too.

And yes, def check if you can change the settings in the DG suite. I know there are things you can do similar to that with some of the pedals. Not sure why they didn't make the amps the same way. I would also be really surprised if they didn't make it possible to send your board through the amp then to the FOH and not have any way for it to pick up your effects on the way through considering that DG started as an effects company and are pretty forward thinking when it comes to things of this nature IME/IMHO.
 
Whirlwind makes some great, affordable DI boxes. Hard to go wrong with just about anything from Radial too.

And yes, def check if you can change the settings in the DG suite. I know there are things you can do similar to that with some of the pedals. Not sure why they didn't make the amps the same way. I would also be really surprised if they didn't make it possible to send your board through the amp then to the FOH and not have any way for it to pick up your effects on the way through considering that DG started as an effects company and are pretty forward thinking when it comes to things of this nature IME/IMHO.
Thanks for the recommendation!

Yeah, I figured it'd be a thing that they would do. Had a few people say the same thing when I've asked but for some reason, I can't make it work. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong that's really simple but I swear no matter what I've tried, my interface only gets the amp tone without any of the processing from the pedalboard.
 
Why not use the DI on your head? If your pedalboard goes into the amp, the DI out will contain the pedalboard signal in either the pre or post eq mode.

I think you are making it way more complicated than it needs to be.

Also, most sound folks will roll their heads at 2 DI’s, especially because any latency on the pedalboard path will create unsolvable (at the average even pro sound guy’s skill level) will need to be time aligned to eliminate very objectionable comb filtering artifacts. This is a real issue with parallel signal paths using any digital devices. With analog you only need to worry about polarity and minor phase shift, not latency.
 
Thanks for the recommendation!

Yeah, I figured it'd be a thing that they would do. Had a few people say the same thing when I've asked but for some reason, I can't make it work. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong that's really simple but I swear no matter what I've tried, my interface only gets the amp tone without any of the processing from the pedalboard.

Maybe it's your interface?
 
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Hey folks. First time posting and hoping for some advice.

I'm looking to play live again soon and was wondering how to handle getting the signal from my pedalboard through the DI output using the DI on my amp head. Reason I ask is because I run a Digitech Drop Pedal, an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe and an Ashdown Triple Shot with my Darkglass Microtubes 500 head, and I know that most venues like to DI the bass these days. But I need the effected sound to come through the DI.

I've experimented a little using the DI output on the head through to Logic X, but I'm only getting the amp signal, without the pedal sounds. I don't know if I need to run the pedals through the effects loop (if it's even safe to do so with the Triple Shot) or if there's some other method that I need to use to achieve this. It's especially important for songs using the Drop Pedal as I'm unable to cart around multiple instruments for different tunings and I need that signal to go to FOH to be in tune with the rest of the band.

Hope that's enough info. Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Are you not taking the output from your pedalboard straight into the input on your amp?
 
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Why not use the DI on your head? If your pedalboard goes into the amp, the DI out will contain the pedalboard signal in either the pre or post eq mode.

I think you are making it way more complicated than it needs to be.

Also, most sound folks will roll their heads at 2 DI’s, especially because any latency on the pedalboard path will create unsolvable (at the average even pro sound guy’s skill level) will need to be time aligned to eliminate very objectionable comb filtering artifacts. This is a real issue with parallel signal paths using any digital devices. With analog you only need to worry about polarity and minor phase shift, not latency.
So the issue I’m having is that the processed signal from the pedals isn’t going through the amp head DI for some reason. I’m not really sure why and wasn’t sure if maybe I needed an outboard DI or the effects loop, or if I was doing something else wrong. I’ll have another look at it tomorrow though. Thanks for the input.
 
that's something weird going on. if you put your pedals in front of your amp (between your bass and your amp's input), they should be heard both in pre- and post-eq di. or in any di box that's plugged after the pedals.

make sure you didn't accidentally turn the pedals off if they have no effect on the sound.
Thanks for the input. The pedals are running from the front of the amp head and are definitely on. The processed sound is coming through my cab, just not the DI.
 

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