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PentaBuzz BUZZ

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by progplayer, Dec 6, 2001.

  1. Dec 6, 2001 #1
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    I don’t get it, on my pedulla pentabuzz the A string 2nd fret line… it buzzes like crazy. It’s the only place where it buzzes with a distinct sound, almost like a glassy buzz. The bass is new so there is nothing worn, the action is extreamly low but the other strings do not buzz (a little but its normal), bridge is set good, and as far as I can see the neck is pretty darn straight. Its annoying but sometimes it sounds cool I don’t know where it came from because it wasn’t there last week! Haha. What u think? Thanks fellow bass players!
     
  2. Dec 6, 2001 #2
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    I'll check the neck again. I'm changing strings anyway. I do have a tech but man, $50 right now is tough for me..... :(
     
  3. Dec 6, 2001 #3
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    hey thanks for the help, yeah i have 4 packs of pedulla .045-.128s (courtesy of GC hahahahaha) nickelwound strings that they put on the penta buzz, they should be the exact same thing. so i don't think the strings would drastically change the neck, etc... right?
     
  4. Dec 9, 2001 #4
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    Well put on the new strings on the Penta and well looks like the action is getting raised and I'm not very happy with that! Maybe its just me but the action seems to be raised a hair. The new strings sound awesome (Nickelwound Pedulla strings) and lots of mwha is present! But seems like the neck aint liking the new strings....

    shall i dare adjust the truss rod??????
     
  5. Dec 9, 2001 #5
    Dave Metts

    Dave Metts

    Nov 21, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    If you feel confident in adjusting the truss rod, I would say go for it.

    I was a little wary, but I just did setups on my G&L L2500 and my Spector NS5CRFM myself (first time), and they turned out wonderfully!

    My playing has improved accordingly. I am now a believer in nice, low action.

    I used this website to step me through it:
    Gary Willis Setup Page

    The site was extremely helpful. I wouldn't suggest messing with it unless you're pretty confident though. That bass is way too nice to mess up!
     
  6. Dec 9, 2001 #6
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    well i have never touched a truss rod in my life so, i guess i should take it to my tech and eat the $50? i think everything is fine, the action just has to be lowered a little bit again.

    if its just a matter of loosening the rod i can do it. 1/4 turn counterclockwise.... i actually downloaded that willis set up site, but haven't touched my pentabuzz yet.

    i'm gonna wait to hear from more of you guys out there before i fool with it....thanks
     
  7. Dec 9, 2001 #7
    gruffpuppy

    gruffpuppy

    Aug 15, 2000
    In your basement.
    Just wanted to bring these up again, for they are valid.

    Also like you said move the truss rod nut a quater turn. Make note of how far you turned it and dont forget. Mark it some how if you have to. Also wait a day for the neck to settle before adjusting it more. The day may put it right were you want it to be. If you are scared spend the $50, if you try and the nut doesn't want to move, spend the $50. Don't use a ton of force.

    Do you have more than one place you can bring it in town? I have 3, GC, Mars and a Mom and Pop place. Mom and Pop don't charge me a thing, and Mom and Pop have adjusted more truss rods than the guy at GC who will probally be working at Taco Bell next week.
     
  8. Dec 10, 2001 #8
    HWK2

    HWK2

    Sep 1, 2000
    Portland, Oregon (Rainville, USA)
    Yeah 50$ seems a bit steep for just adjusting a truss rod (granted its pretty damn important) but its really not that scary if you read the guides, and don't go crazy :D just a little bit at a time can make a big difference. You didn't mention if the new strings stopped the buzz, although I'm assuming that it did. :D well thats one less problem on the road to bass bliss :D
     
  9. Dec 10, 2001 #9
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    Nope, the A string STILL buzzes on the second fret line. Weird...

    Well maybe I'm over reacting here, my mind may be playing tricks on me. I guess I *think* fret lines 12-24 seem a little bit higher before I changed the strings (I'm using the exact same strings the bass came with). The action is still pretty low but it *seems* the higher you go the higher the action gets....is this a small change in the neck??? Or am I just being anal as usual? :p

    GC????? They will NEVER touch anything that I own! Not only did they mess up a friend of mine's Ibanez 7 String Sabre they have screwed me two times bad. Also the last report I have gotten from the "grapevine" was a GC associate was trying to put a Mesa/Boogie 4x10 cab in a customers MercedesBenz and ripped their leather seat while putting it in. :D Needless to say the customer is taking GC to court because the customer told the associate that it wouldn't fit but the associate(s) pushed it in anyway, I guess it is a $75,000 car, whoa.

    Anyway I trust only one tech here and he lives an hour and half away. Yes he charges high prices for set-ups/truss rod adjustments but I *trust* him. I think its time for me to do my own set ups soon, just don't want to mess anything up. Any suggestions? If the action seems high from 12-24 what do i need to do,

    thanks guys!!!!:confused:
     
  10. Dec 10, 2001 #10
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    hmmmmmm, according to the pedulla manual it says to turn it counter clockwise to pull the neck back, i think their truss rods are different. i mean its not that big of a deal. I can turn the rod like 1/8th of a turn just to see if that will do it. but i really appreciate your help on this!!
     
  11. Dec 11, 2001 #11
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    Well me being a dumb ape :eek: turned the rod one way and all of a sudden the whole board buzzed like mad!!!! :( so i tried to put it back the way it was. Right now it buzzes a little bit, i could keep turning it a hair and make the buzz go away but i want the neck as straight as possible w/little releif. What did I do????

    I should have left it the way it was darn it! Do you think I should lower the saddles a little bit to lower the action on frets 12-24?

    Maybe I should just leave it alone, if it 'aint broke don't fix it.....:mad:

    thanks cruise!
     
  12. Dec 11, 2001 #12
    gruffpuppy

    gruffpuppy

    Aug 15, 2000
    In your basement.
    Like cruise4 said don't sweat it man. It is going to take you a couple of days. Don't touch the saddles. Do one thing at a time. Double and triple check the manual to make sure you are turning the right way.

    The Pedulla Buzz neck likes to be flat, as in no real bow or relief.
     
  13. Dec 11, 2001 #13
    progplayer

    progplayer

    Nov 7, 2001
    hey thanks cruise and folks.

    i'm leaving it alone for now. the one thing i can't really tell is the releif. yeah i did fret the first line and the 22nd line and looked at the 7th line to see how much space is there, i can't even tell :eek: i mean its not much space there but.... i want to get this neck straight. i think it still has a "dip" in the neck.

    anyway it buzzes in a few spots and i have no idea why. its got to be the neck. sorry if i sound like an idiot but i've never touched a truss rod before. maybe i'll have to take it to the tech after xmas.... hahaha, oh well.
     
  14. Dec 13, 2001 #14
    Tapp

    Tapp

    Aug 29, 2001
    USA, Mississippi
    Prog, I find it harder to tell relief on my Pentabuzz due to lack of frets. You may want to take a Fender thin pick or a business card and see if you can slip it under the "midpoint" of the B-string. If not, then adjust for a forward bow.

    The Pedulla truss rod is different so follow your manual's instructions. It may be that the saddle for the A string is too low. When you look down the side of the front of the body do the strings have a slight curvature with the fingerboard or are they straight in-line? You may find that the A is lower and needs to be raised at the saddle. I have a preference of slight curvature so I usually adjust all of my basses myself till it "feels" right. Be sure and retune after saddle adjustments.

    Tapp