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Perhaps they can play bass, but they are NOT bassists!

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by shaboda, Aug 24, 2003.


  1. shaboda

    shaboda

    Apr 14, 2002
    I was talking to a friend of a friend who happened to 'play guitar' -- and he says to me, 'well any guitar player can play bass- and besides it only has 4 strings!'. This burned me and I said - 'unless it's a 5 or 6 string! and not to mention they cry after a song cuz they're used to little baby guitar strings. Perhaps they can play bass, but they are not bassists'.
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    bottom line is- anyone ever get this from a self proclaimed 'guitar player'?
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    the lack of respect sometimes still gets to me.
    :bawl:
     
  2. Someone here awhile ago said: "All guitarists can play bass as well as all bassists can play guitar."

    I've never had any guitarist I've played with actually say this. Come to think of it, I played with one guitarist who was a better bassist than I was:eek: I have, though, run into some people who do think that way. They were idiots, anyay:rolleyes:
     
  3. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    Perhaps they can post, but they do it in the wrong forum... ;)
     
  4. Figjam

    Figjam

    Aug 5, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Guitarists can play bass, yes, but it depends what your definition of playing bass is. If if it just playing with a pick, one note at a time, regularly, then yes. But allof my guitarists friends cant slap. I know one kid who has been playing guitar for like 8 years , with a private teacher teh whole time, and he is really good. He can play bass faster with a pick than i can, but he has nothing on my slapping. SO yes, hes not a bassist, but he can play bass.

    But i dont think it works the other way. I suck at guitar. I think only bassists who play 6 stringers and up can handle their own on a guitar really well. I only play 4's and 5's and i suck at guitar.
     
  5. MMiller28

    MMiller28 Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2003
    Wisconsin
    ^^^ Didn't I look cool in high school?
    lol
     
  6. Garey

    Garey Supporting Member Commercial User

    Apr 23, 2003
    Northern California
    Artist Relations/Product Specialist: Mesa Boogie
    Guitars players might be able to play a bass........but they sound like a GUITAR PLAYER playing the bass!! Most guitarists don't understand the pocket...they might hit the notes, but not the groove.

    Aloha, Garey
     
  7. rllefebv

    rllefebv

    Oct 17, 2000
    Newberg, Oregon
    The guitarist in my blues band played bass for years before switching to guitar, and then played for years in a band where he and the lead player switched for about a third of the songs... A very good bass player who chooses to leave that function to me... For my part, I get nothing but enjoyment when I hand him the bass and sit out for a few... it's great to hear how my rig sounds out in the room without having to concentrate on playing... I'm confident that as a band, we sound much better when I'm playing the bass and he's playing guitar! :p My experiences pretty much parallel SMASH's here...

    Figjam - I've played bass for upwards of 20 years but don't slap... does that mean I'm not a bassist??

    -robert
     
  8. I started on guitar, when I was 6 I think, (I'm 15) so I've been playing for 9 years, but I switched to bass like 5 years ago, and I enjoy it ALOT more than guitar. probably cause I'm a shy person, and I like my instrument to not be as obvious, and I like the fact that my instrument is not compeating with other instruments, like a guitar.

    but the weird thing is, even the very first time I played bass, I played it like a bass player, I played with my fingers, didn't go all crazy, and play lead lines, but that was probably cause my dad plays bass, and I knew the "proper" way to play.
     
  9. I can play guitar, but I'm not a guit. player.. I do not think of music from the G perspective, and none of my hands is good with guitar string spacing and thin strings.
     
  10. incognito89x

    incognito89x ♪♫♪ ♪ ♪ ♫&#983

    Sep 22, 2002
    Royal Oak, Michigan
    I'm a pretty talented musician when it comes to figuring out music. I can pick up a guitar and play a lot of guitar parts that I listen to. But I can't play *good* guitar lines. Such as classic blues type stuff, or large chords (5 or 6 string chords, etc). With bass I can figure out pretty much any song I want to by listening to it a few times.
     
  11. HeavyDuty

    HeavyDuty Supporting Curmudgeon Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    Perhaps they can, but go talk about it in Misc. Moved.
     
  12. yea..I've heard stupid remarks like that...a former friend of mine started giving me less respect for playing a "4 stringed guitar" than a bass. I starterd talking to him about basses and he goes "Play guitar, the only difference that a bass as only 4 strings that are thicker"....ever wonder why I'm not friends with him anymore?
     
  13. That's why I love playing my unlined fretless on gigs occasionally. During rehearsals, the guitarist will grab my bass, thinking he can just pick it up and play it. Instead, he'll look at it in confusion and put it down.
     
  14. moley

    moley

    Sep 5, 2002
    Hampshire, UK
    I agree. As a guitarist myself, I find the guitarist bashing thing to be pretty lame. the silliest thing is when people here say that their instrument shouldn't be called a bass guitar. C'mon! You may not like to think that your instrument is in the same family as the guitar, but it is, sorry! Deal with it! You're not only are you a bass player, you're a bass GUITARIST! ;)

    People here continually complain about guitarists (always the same complaints), but I've never met one guitarist who conforms to this stereotype.
     
  15. Edwcdc

    Edwcdc I call shotgun!

    Jul 21, 2003
    Columbia MD USA
    Like a lot of other bass players I started off on guitar. I still play guitar for song writing and just sitting around the house. I would never try to gig as a guitar player unless I was in a front man/singer role. That might be fun. Yes, some guitar players can play bass, they can even groove. Some guitar players just don't get it when when it comes to bass. At the same time if a guitar player or bass player isn't that talented anything he plays might sound like crap on any instrument.
     
  16. Killdar

    Killdar

    Dec 16, 2002
    Portland Maine
    People who don't respect other players of music should be slapped, unless there is a good reason for not respecting them. Ignorance may or may not be acceptable, but quite often that is the cause, some people just don't know how it is.
     
  17. Perhaps a guitarist can play a bass.

    However, 90% of the time, they sound like a guitarist playing bass....

    They don't sound like a bass player.


    To experienced musicians, there is value in the difference.

    EDIT: Oops, in my haste I failed to niotice that Garey posted basically what I just said. There must be some merit in this concept...
     
  18. shaboda

    shaboda

    Apr 14, 2002
    I am the one who started this topic- SORRY for posting in the wrong place- that was a boo boo on my part... but as far as guitarist bashing, I wasn't trying to stir that up either, I was just posting about a comment that has been said to me one too many times and thought I would see what other fellow bassists' opinions were. Thanks.
     
  19. Figjam

    Figjam

    Aug 5, 2003
    Boston, MA
    You dont slap, but im sure you CAN slap? some? yes?
     
  20. Infested_Leming

    Infested_Leming

    Jun 29, 2003
    Canada
    A guitarist would have just as much slap potential as a bassist who never slaps. Bass isn't defined by slap.