Permanent long E?

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by salcott, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. salcott

    salcott Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    NYC, Inwood.
    I've seen several players using Permanent long E with Bel Canto ADG. If you use this setup, I'd be interested in hearing why.
  2. Sam Dingle

    Sam Dingle Supporting Member

    Aug 16, 2011
    Nashville TN
    One guy in the LPO used Permanent long E with belcanto ADG, Evah Medium and then weich ADG. He found the feel to be tight like a spiro but less harsh under the bow.

    for what its worth he moved on to a spiro Light long E and likes it more
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  3. Contranash

    Contranash Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Kansas City
    I have had success with this combination. If you are happy with the top 3 bel cantos, but are wanting more clarity, or color, or volume, or "something" from the 4th string, this is a good option. I also recommend what Sam said, the light Gauge 4/4 spirocore C.

    Both options are trying to solve the issue of a lack luster 4th string. Both take about a week of play-in time before they feel safe and even.

    I currently use the 4/4 weich Spiro C, as I feel it has a better contact point similarity to the adjacent bel A, whereas the permanent C felt like it needed a higher contact point than the adjacent Bel A.
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  4. Steve Swan

    Steve Swan

    Oct 12, 2004
    Burlingame, California
    Retailer: Shen, Sun, older European
    I like Permanent E or E/C in a variety of arco applications. Tonally, they can be a great match for Bel Canto A,D,G. Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
  5. I use Permanent E/C with Passione on A,D,G. It add a lot more intensity to that low range.
  6. Phil Rowan

    Phil Rowan Supporting Member

    Mar 2, 2005
    Brooklyn, NY
    As others have stated, I enjoy the clarity and ever so slightly brighter “edge” (not sure if that’s the right word, but hopefully another Permanent low C user will know what I mean) it has. To be clear, it’s by no means a bright strong, per se, I guess it’s more about how clear it is for having such low frequencies.
  7. salcott

    salcott Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    NYC, Inwood.
    Got the Permanent on-it's kinda blatty right now, but there's time to let it nearest possible gig is in January.
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  8. Selim

    Selim Supporting Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    New York City
    I know two strictly orchestra bassists who went this same route.
  9. salcott

    salcott Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    NYC, Inwood.
    Back to Bel Canto-Permanent is just too raucous.