Pete Best of the Beatles

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by ElectroVibe, Aug 7, 2021.

  1. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Has anyone analyzed his drumming style. I've heard so many discrepancies about him.

    Some of his recordings with the Beatles sound very basic.

    But then his performance on My Bonnie, with the Beatles as backing band, sounds more impressive.
     
  2. By many accounts, he got the gig due to the fact that his mom owned a venue (bought with winnings from a horse race), he had drums and was willing to go to Hamburg. Talent didn’t factor much into it.
     
  3. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Absolutely. But it's still interesting he was with them during their formative years.

    I read his autobiography when I was a kid. It made me hate the band for a while. None of them said a word to him after the decision to fire him was made.
     
  4. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    John also said his looks were a factor because he attracted female fans.
     
  5. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    But I noticed he was the only one of the four who didn't get the Caesar style haircut the rest of them got in Germany. He wasn't really with them all the way.
     
  6. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Don't think it's possible to make much of an analysis based on how young he was, and how little we have. I think the facts showing why he was brought into the group, and that he was replaced by Ringo, says something.
     
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  7. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Here is John Lennon talking about him.

     
  8. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    There is another clip with Paul talking about him. He didn't criticize him so much as say, there was a world of difference when Ringo first played with them, filling in for Pete on a gig once.
     
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  9. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Plus, it seems like the band was completely changing their style. Ringo had more of a Beatnik style. I can't think of another word to describe it. The kind of music they played with Pete was more of a 50s style.
     
  10. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Inactive

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    I wouldn’t put much stock in what he says. He got kicked out of the band on the cusp of their success after putting in the hard work that got them there. Not exactly an unbiased source. Hell, I’d be mad too.
     
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  11. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Yes, but consider that none of them ever saw him or spoke a word to him. Brian Epstein handled that.
     
  12. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Remember, they were what, 20, at the time? I wouldn't expect them to have the greatest inter-personal skills.
     
  13. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    Good point. Even with Paul McCartney there was a big difference between the way he was shown reacting to the death of John Lennon to reporters, compared to his reaction 20 years later to George Harrison death. He was better prepared.
     
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  14. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    Firing someone from your band is emotionally hard, even when the reasons are artistically sound. No wonder they let their manager do it.
     
  15. Stevorebob

    Stevorebob Well... I Am Here, Aren't I? Supporting Member

    Sep 29, 2011
    Los Angeles
    I believe this was Stu Sutcliffe who had the lady-killer looks that we’re considered an asset.

    This may have also been Stu, who preferred and kept the slicked-back-hair look.
     
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  16. Yellow Bang66

    Yellow Bang66

    Jun 5, 2019
    Ughhhhh. I got into a big argrument with a co- worker, about how great John was, but i disagreed! after watching a show about Julian & how Paul wrote Hey Jude for Julian after he noticed how sad he was when John would ignore him! And now how he treated Pete just to get to Hamburg! Not the humanitarian we were led to believe!I always felt for Julian. Especially when he was all peace & love with Yoko! and showered Sean with "Love"! I get he was young& there are other people involved, but deep down you know whats right & how to treat people!!
    Still pisses me off when i see Yoko's stupid face, & how she treats Julian!
     
  17. GretschWretch

    GretschWretch Supporting Member

    Dec 27, 2013
    East Central Alabama
    And there are other tales regarding Lennon's churlish behavior. One such is that Jim Tucker, the rhythm guitarist for the Turtles who just idolized Lennon, was treated so shabbily by him on the Turtles' visit to London that he left the music business upon the band's return to the states.
     
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  18. 2112

    2112 Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2005
    Pete Best... the original fired drummer.
     
  19. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    That John Lennon was always a difficult, complex person with a challenging personality (to put it mildly) is hardly in dispute.
     
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  20. Didn’t George Martin also suggest that Best was sub-par?