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Pete Townshend cleared of all charges in child porn case

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by DigMe, Jan 11, 2003.


  1. DigMe

    DigMe

    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Wow...strange story. "Research purposes?" Fighting child porn? Was he really on a crusade? Whaddya think?

    From http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/reuters20030111_208.html

    LONDON (Reuters) - British rock star Pete Townshend, guitarist with legendary band The Who, on Saturday admitted downloading child pornography from the Internet but denied he was a pedophile and said it was for research purposes.

    The guitarist took the unusual step of issuing a public statement after a newspaper said police were investigating an unnamed music star as part of Britain's largest-ever operation against Internet pedophilia.

    In the lengthy statement, Townshend said he had paid to enter an Internet site advertising child pornography "purely to see what was there" as research to fight the crime.

    "I am not a pedophile. I think pedophilia is appalling," he said in the statement which was distributed by a woman to reporters outside his home in Richmond, south London.

    "On one occasion I used a credit card to enter a site advertising child porn. I did this purely to see what was there," he said.

    Townshend, 57, said he felt "anger and vengeance" toward those who found child pornography attractive, and said he believed he was sexually abused as a child but could not remember clearly what happened.

    "To fight against pedophilia, you have to know what's out there," he said, adding that he was involved in an anti-pedophilia campaign that had fizzled out.

    Townshend, who is married with children, had earlier left the house in a Mercedes car.

    A spokesman for London police refused to comment on the matter, saying it did not talk about individual cases and was not able to confirm that police were investigating a rock star.

    HIGHS AND LOWS

    The Who shot to fame in the late 1960s with its zeitgeist anthem "My Generation" and cemented its reputation with such albums as "Tommy," "Who's Next" and "Quadrophenia."

    Townshend, who wrote most of the band's songs, was renowned for smashing his guitars during live stage performances.

    Despite its many musical highs, the band has also been dogged by tragedy. Townshend and lead singer Roger Daltrey are the only two surviving original members of the band.

    Bass player John Entwistle died in a Las Vegas hotel room last year from a heart attack triggered by cocaine use.

    Twenty-five years earlier, the band's original drummer, Keith Moon, died of an accidental pill overdose. The Daily Mail newspaper reported that an unnamed rock star was being investigated by officers on the Operation Ore inquiry.

    The operation has resulted in more than 1,300 arrests nationwide, including 50 police officers and is partly based on information supplied by American law enforcement agencies.

    Townshend said he could not remember the details of the sexual abuse he believed he suffered as a child, "but my creative work tends to throw up nasty shadows -- particularly in Tommy," he said, referring to the 1969 rock opera.

    He said he predicted many years ago the Internet would "subvert, pervert and destroy the lives of decent people."

    "I have felt for a long time that it is part of my duty, knowing what I know, to act as a vigilante to help support organizations...build up a powerful and well-informed voice to speak loudly about the millions of dollars being made by American banks and credit card companies for the pornography industry."

    brad cook
     
  2. I don't know about a crusade, but I doubt he's really a pedophile, and there's probably some merit behind his story.

    Child porn is exploitive in every sense of the word. But I don't see anyway of getting rid of it.
     
  3. Alyn

    Alyn

    Dec 19, 2002
    Dunno, dunno what to think of it, although shurley he wouldn't give out his name before the police if he was guilty would he?
     
  4. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    he always looked like a pederass to me... but I dunno.
     
  5. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    yeah... i agree... but baseing things on looks is not good. let me see.... is it just me wondering why ANYONE would go to a kiddy porn site "Just to see what was on there"??????no way. sick. i'm gonna go vomit now.
     
  6. SMASH

    SMASH Guest

    Jan 18, 2000
    Canada.
    He's married with kids ??? Thought he was gay.

    I like how they mention he left in a "Mercedes car". Very important detail :rolleyes:

    Pete is a hero and one of the world's greatest artists. God bless him. I hope he is on the path of the righteous.

    Matt Till, don't speak presumtuously or judge people by how they look. Pete Townshend and The Who are as Gods to many people here and to speak negatively of them is very insulting.
     
  7. SMASH

    SMASH Guest

    Jan 18, 2000
    Canada.
    This thread should be deleted. It is very disturbing.

    We should not have to see this headline when on Talkbass.

    :mad:
     
  8. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    i don't see how pete townsend saying he's not a pedophile involves him in the case :rolleyes:.
     
  9. The way I see it, it's the tabloid meeja just trying to bring him down because he's a famous celebrity.

    C'mon, he told Scotland Yard what he was doing, and he'll happily admit to looking at adult porn; if he's doing that and still is a p (I can't type that word) then he's either stupid (which I doubt) or running one hell of a doulbe-bluff.

    Neither of which I can beleive. I *can* believe him in what he says, that he was involved in an anti-child porn movement, and that nhe thinks he may have been abused as a child.


    Maybe my respect and love for The Who is blinkering me, but I don't believe the reports for a moment. I believe that it's some kind of witch-hunt.
     
  10. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    I don't have the HIV virus, I only bought the AZT to see what it tasted like.
     
  11. Sinker

    Sinker

    Dec 4, 2002
    Newark, DE USofA
    Remember Pete's hit from "Empty Glass?"

    Rough Boys
    Running the streets
    Come a little closer......I want to bite and kiss you

    Just saying is all.
     
  12. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA

    I didn't mean it. I just wanted to say pederass... Big Lebowski...
     
  13. NO, I don't tihnk he is a child-onlooker. (i hate not being able to speeel :D)

    I won't stop listenign to their music, if he is, but I'd be very sad to hear it.



    :confused:
     
  14. witch hunt, I would not be surprised if thats the case. Regardless of his guilt or not, it did take some gut to say that he was looking at kiddy porn.
    Another point is, he was willingly PAYING, let me say that again, PAYING to look at child pornography. If he did it to get off dosent matter, the fact remains the same, he paid someone to give him access to the worst form of pornography. If he says he against child porno he's got a weird way of fighting it....
    Guilty or not, I;ve lost what little respect I had left for him, Sadly the best members of the who are now deceased..
     
  15. White_Knight

    White_Knight

    Mar 19, 2000
    USA
    I agree. I'm sorry that a lot of you like him and believe he's innocent, but in the couple minutes it took me to read this thread I shot his defense so full of holes it wasn't even funny. A couple examples: First off, if he's against this then why is he looking it up? He says to "see what's out there" which curiously is the excuse a lot of these kind of people use. He should have gotten involved with the government instead of crusading off on his own (interesting that no more facts are provided on the supposed group he was with before this). Secondly, if he's against this, then why in the world is he paying for it? Even if he was honest to goodness against it, he is still supporting it and that still violates the law. Finally, just becaused he issued a statement doesn't mean anything. All the time criminals and terrorists that are caught/accused issue statements to try to get the public to symphatize for them, to try to get their charge lessened, etc.
     
  16. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Okay, let's see if I understand. A clacking tone by Fieldy or running around naked in a video by Mark Hoppus is unforgiveable, but Pete Townshend looking at kiddie porn is? Am I on the same page here?
     
  17. PollyBass

    PollyBass ******

    Jun 25, 2001
    Shreveport, LA
    Great point woodchuck.

    Because he is a more "Respected" musician, he is more forgivable. it's sad really. the pervert.

    AND HE IS, if he is looking at kiddy porn, he's a pervert.
     
  18. rayzak

    rayzak

    Jan 13, 2001
    Louisville, KY
    I'm with Woodchuck here... Sometimes people will tell a small truth to get out of a large lie. I don't know, don't really care either. If he was, he's a sick s.o.b. I don't care if it's the Pope(oops, bad example);) For as much as i've seen in my life, i've never even seen a pic of kiddy porn, I know it's out there and I can only imagine what it's like... but I have an imagination, I don't need to experience it to "know what's out there". C'mon Pete!!! You've seen everything else now all that's left is kiddie porn? Sick!!!
    Don't mean to offend any Who fans out there as i'm one of 'em. All of this, of course, is just IMHO.
     
  19. SMASH

    SMASH Guest

    Jan 18, 2000
    Canada.
    I am not defending or excusing the creation/viewing of "kiddie porn" but just FYI for everyone reading this thread :

    By the laws in some states/countries YOU probably have seen or have plenty of "child porn" on your computer. In some conutries/states that includes teenagers, including ages at which they can freely make XXX films as "adults" in the US. In other countries they can legally model nude (we're not necessarily talking about hardcore porn) at a given age which constitutes "child porn" in the US.

    Also, in the US it is legal, while a grey area, to post/sell photos & videos of children excercising or bathing naked (saw a documentary on 60 minutes where some parents supposedly make over $100k per year doing so, then complain to the enws station and the FBI when ripped of by porn merchants or threatened by stalkers :rolleyes: ) which *only* appeals to perverts yet is technically still legal.

    So, since we have no idea what he purchased/viewed or what he has to do with that case, if anything (as JT rightly pointed out), then we should be careful of casting stones, eh?

    While it certainly looks bad, he might be technically/legally no more guilty than anyone r rents from the "adult" section or surfs the internet one-handed.

    If he is guilty though, he deserves the worst, and while we're at it we might as well add a few years to his sentence for those awful solo albums he's made. The world is used to getting much better from Mr. Townshend.
     
  20. Well...

    It was permissable for Charleton Heston to listen to "Cop Killer", a song that (supposedly) advocated the killing of police men.

    I don't see how Pete Townshend's is much different, different media and case scenario. In addition, state prosecutors and policemen look at hundreds of pictures of kiddie porn when they bust one of the porn rings. How is THAT permissable?

    There are hundreds of instances where people have gotten their hands dirty in order for the greater good.

    In adiition... Woodchuck, I don't think many people call Fieldy's or Hoppus' "unforgivable", its more just "sucky"