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Phil Jones 6 pack amp is the funk

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Al Caldwell, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. Al Caldwell

    Al Caldwell

    Mar 18, 2003
    St.Louis , Mo
    If any of you get a chance to check out philjonesbass.com ,do it. I just bought (2)
    6 pack amps and i'm
    very pleased to see something difrent on
    the horizon. I feel the low end and the mid range of my instrument finally sounds true. It also
    sounds great on my banjo and dobro!!I have a huge rig ,but
    these amps give me
    another perspective
    when it comes to finding my tone! I'm
    freaked out. I plug my
    Madison Hydras cabs
    into them and they drive the hell out of them.!!
  2. neptoon

    neptoon Supporting Member

    Jul 25, 2000
    Vero Beach, FL
    you have GOT to be al caldwell...welcome to talkbass, man! the phil jones stuff seems to be really cool, but a little pricey. worth it, though? i gotta ask about the mad hydras. those cabs look insane. does the 21" driver stack up to, say, an accugroove 21"? those are the only 21 inch cabs that i know of at the moment. also, where can i get my hands on some travellin' black hillbillies tunes? :D
  3. Al Caldwell

    Al Caldwell

    Mar 18, 2003
    St.Louis , Mo
    Thanks for responding.
    The price on the Phil
    Jones gear shocked me at first, but when they took the top off of the M 500...I understood. It didn't
    look like my old peavey TNT! The Hydra cabs are the best bang for the buck.I've listened to the Accugrooves at Bill Conklins house and I thought they were nice, but for $1200 dollars you get a 21 woofer,a 500 watt 12 inch and 2 8inch speakers and a horn!!
    And it sounds like GOD! Now thats good eating!!!!!My web site should be up soon. tbhillbilly.com
    We're in Kansas City
    at The Ameristar Casino wensday through monday.
  4. neptoon

    neptoon Supporting Member

    Jul 25, 2000
    Vero Beach, FL
    yeah, i thought it was you...not too many people around that play 9 string bass, banjo and dobro...and play through a pair of madison hydras. if i'm ever down that way, i'll have to check you out. i'll be keeping an eye out for your website. thanks man!
  5. Fretless5verfan


    Jan 17, 2002
    I just happened to stumble into this thread and catch the mention of Madison speakers. I checked out audiobin...are they for real!? Those prices seem nuts! Thanks alot you guys, you've offically given me more GAS that usual:( :p :D
  6. Zentner

    Zentner Supporting Member

    Madison Hydras cabs?

    Tell me more!!! I'd be very interested in a company that seems like it may give Accugroove a run for it's money.

    I searched on Metacrawler.com and found nothing, and also searched here on talkbass and found nothing.

    Any pictures?

  7. Zentner

    Zentner Supporting Member

    Heh, i didn't see the post before mine....

    Oh my god.... now they're giving Accugroove a run for their money "speaker-wise" and Avatar a run for their money "price-wise"

    I REALLY wanna hear these cabs. where did you pick them up..?
  8. Fretless5verfan


    Jan 17, 2002
    I've heard on here and from a local bassist that Legion cabs are pretty much not worth trying, but the Madisons were atleast worth a go. Though i'd like to know if they would stand up to an Aggie or a Berg...
  9. Anyone know if Phil's planning on releasing his range over here in the UK?
  10. Al Caldwell

    Al Caldwell

    Mar 18, 2003
    St.Louis , Mo
    I'll be at the Namm show representing Madison and Conklin. Please come check it out. You can get the number to Madison from the web site. I love his cabs. Andy is a great guy.
  11. mz91


    Apr 19, 2002
    Zug, Switzerland
    :eek: :eek: :eek:
    That Rig is SWEET!
  12. Slot


    Oct 17, 2003
    Sydney - The Shire

    Holy shizer!

    That setup is a WMD
  13. Sufenta

    Sufenta Trudging The Happy Road of Destiny Supporting Member

    Mar 14, 2002
    The Signpost Up Ahead.
    B9S, please post a pic of your 9 string. I gotta see this. Thanks
  14. Sufenta

    Sufenta Trudging The Happy Road of Destiny Supporting Member

    Mar 14, 2002
    The Signpost Up Ahead.
    The amazing part is that the whole rig breaks down and fits into the back of a Honda Accord.:D
  15. billhw13


    May 10, 2002
    Clinton, NJ
    I recently pickep up the Six-Pak. It's quite an amazing little unit. I'll share a review I wrote up on the 'pit.

    To start with, I ought to mention that I did order the Six-Pak after some research and with a goal in mind, which was along these lines: I've gone through quite a few basses over the past few years...some good ones, somes dogs. And I kept wondering - what was the bottom line that made me keep selling and buying and trading? It took a while for me to realize that no matter how much I liked a bass, I kept getting the same , un-satisfactory tone in a live situation. Now, I have not been using underpowered, or even budget gear. I had been using pretty good stuff..but I could never get the right tone in a live situation. To compound things, the band I'm working with is heavily into working out strict dynamics to the tunes..the leader really wants to have a lean sound to the band. Of course, with my previous equipment, I always interpreted that to mean big fat bass that covered the stage floor. But when that didn't work out, I tried lowering the volume. Not the solution either. (I couldn't hear myself!) Then I looked into Phil Jones's amps...the idea of the smaller, quicker drivers really struck me. If you read Phil's site, he has some very interesting information...and it made sense to me. That's why I ordered the PJB Six-Pak.

    So, what do I think? In a word, the Six Pak is pretty amazing. It's made my sound do a 180, if you know what I mean. And in turn, the band sounds better in total.

    The tightness, punch and clearness to the sound really works for me. Think of a song your listening to on the stereo...think of a tune where you can clearly hear the tone of the bass - and NOT just a rumble. Notice how good tone doesn't need to totally vibrate your living room ? That's the best way I can describe what the Six-Pak does in a live situation. It puts the tone of the bass way up front..just like a good recording. I have found that, without tons of rumble, the bands volume is lower and we play better too. It achieves the one thing I have been chasing..clear, live tone without requiring massive volume.

    I've used it in rehearsal, and 2 gigs and it just really works out well. The guys in the band like it since it provides a tight , well- defined bass tone that doesn't need to vibrate the entire room to be heard. I don't know how else to describe it. The little cab puts out plently of lows - don't get me wrong - but its the punch and clearness that sets it apart. It's really quite a treat to be playing through it.

    I'll share a few more thoughts - I know alot of you guys are skeptical, but these are my honest opinions...and I do want to convey that, IMO, Phil Jones has really made a new contribution in the bass world.

    First off, this little guy is probably smaller than you think. I put my Stingray next to it in this photo, so you can get a sense of it's size. (the amp is sitting on top of a EA 12).
    It's a heavy little unit, but since it's small, it's handled with ease because there are handles on top, recessed handles on the side, and the telescopic handle / wheels so you can roll it along like luggage. it seems that Phil really spared no expense when considering the build quality of this unit. It's completely solid and every single peice of it, right down to the power cord, conveys that "Overbuilt and over-engineered" feeling. For example, there are six different protection circuits built into this amp, to keep me from blowing things up!

    When you first plug in, it feels funny. There are 2 eq's, one is semi-parametric, the other is a graphic. But what got me, was that my ears were not used to hearing the flat tone of my bass. Phil's manual states you'll hear the exact tone that your bass is making, and I believe it's true. So , I went ahead and tweaked some knobs...sounded good here at home...it wasn't totally shaking the rafters, but it could get quite loud. (by the way - the rough comparison, I'm told, is that using the Six-Pak is roughly like using a 1x12 cab).
    I liked what I heard , but decided to hold my opinions until I used it in a live setting.

    The compressor is fantastic...so subtle, it doesn't kill your tone at all. I usually hate compressors..but I do like this one. The controls and LED's are all laid out in a very logical, easy to use manner too.

    Later the next day, I roll into a jazz club, and plop this little guy down. After the band gets going, it was like whammo! That's it! The tone of my bass the just came through the mix. Not because it was overly trebly, or overly boomy..no - it just sounded very even and there was a tightness to the notes. I could hear everything fine and I was not loud at all. The whole band took instant notice too. I have had similiar experiences in other venues as well.

    Now, I know we all like to create some boom..so don't let me mislead you. The M500 head that is in this combo is really the big surprise for me. Why? because when you start adding add'l cabinets to it, it can drive up to 700 watts! You see, with just the combo alone, driving the six speakers, it's putting out abut 190w tops...but you can add multiple cabs to draw out more power and weight to your tone..and that is where things really get cooking! and it's not just the power - but the clean TONE of the increased power that knocks me out.
    I sat the combo on top of a Euphonics Audio 12" cab, and I swear, it was the tightest, punchiest tone I have ever heard. And to think you could add a few more cabs to this little head - it would cover any venue. Ultimately, I would really like to get the 9B cabinet (or two) as an extension. that would be a thing of beauty! Those five inch drivers are so quick and tight sounding, I'd love to hear more of them in a bigger cabinet.

    So, what you have, is this great tone in a small package, that is easily expandable when needed. Aside from sounding sweet, the expandability is one of the really great features with this amp.
    It goes from small gigs to loud gigs very easily..just add another cabinet or two. And I can't stress enough how clean, tight and in-your-face-but-not-obnoxious that sound is.

    Funny thing about amps...no matter how good the bass is, a muddy sounding or heavily colored (I mean built-in eq) amp will just lose your tone in the mix ...If I had had this amp a year or two ago, I guarantee you I would not have gone through so many different basses looking for that "tone"...I can't tell you how many great basses I've had, that I sold because they didn't cut it in a live situation.

    So, as you can see, I'm very happy with this amp. If you've struggled with live tone, as I have , you might want to give this one a try.
  16. DB5


    Jul 3, 2001
    Austin Texas
    Great Review, Thanks, very interesting :cool:

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    Jan 4, 2002
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    I hate Al.I hate Al,I hate Al,I hate Al :D
  18. billhw13


    May 10, 2002
    Clinton, NJ
    Gig report:
    Rolled the Sixpak into a biker club last night. This is typically a loud place and last night was no exception, especially when the owner sat in for a few tunes on the drum kit. He's real a hard hitting rock drummer - and damn fun to play with too. Anyways - that six pak had no problem keeping up with the band, which did get pretty loud and rowdy at times. I'm just amazed at how much low end punch this tiny amp delivers to my tone. And this was without any extension cabs - which if you wanted to, you could add 2 or 3 more. The six pak coupled up with the 9B cab must be killer.
    Also, It's really nice to make one trip into the club. Gig bag in one hand, and rolling the sixpak with the other hand. Viola', I'm done setting up!
  19. PCOHEN


    Nov 24, 2003
    St. Louis, MO
    At first I was leary about loosing a 15" speaker for a series of 5", but I gotta tell you the tone is incredible in my Phil Jones Bass 6 pack. I cannot rave enough about the amp. This is the amp! Bottom line: This 6 pack rocks, I cannot wait to add the "briefcase". Thanks Phil Jones Bass!
  20. JSCHRO7376

    JSCHRO7376 Commercial User

    Feb 23, 2004
    Los Angeles County, CA
    Owner, Schroeder Cabinets
    Did anybody out there ever A/B' ed an EA combo with Phil Jones' six pack? I think that would be very interesting.
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