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Phil Jones Neo 8B amp suggestions

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by LowRoller, Mar 9, 2014.

  1. LowRoller

    LowRoller Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2012
    Fairfield, CA
    I was hoping some Phil Jones users could chime in on suggestions on what type of amp I should pair with me Phil Jones 8B cab. To my ears this cab is very mid-focused and I would like to hopefully eq some of that out.
    As to style of music I am mainly a jazz and r&b guy. The other rig I use at the present is a Streamliner 900 paired with a Berg HD 2-12 and I love this set up but is is not necessary for 80 percent of the gigs I do.
    When paired with my Streamliner I am not able to get the slap tones I would like to get but I do get a nice finger style tone from it.
    Since a lot of you were very helpful in leading me in the direction of the Streamliner/ Bergantino setup I was hoping to get similar responses regarding my Phil Jones 8B. Thanks in advance. :help:

  2. Jeff Roller

    Jeff Roller Jeff Roller Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 24, 2007
    Maryville, TN
    When I had my PJB 8B Neo cab I used my PJB M500 head for gigs. That head is an EQ tweaking wet dream with both parametric and graphic (both defeatable, or able to be used independent or tandem).

    I also have a D200 head I used with it, but I didn't get to use it in a "loud" rock setting, so I have no idea if it would work for your purposes or not.

    I loaned the cab to a buddy who plays similar venues, he paired it with his Little Mark II head. His reaction was "meh". So I know from this and a subsequent conversation with Phil Jones, that it's important to couple the cab with appropriate amp. I would give Phil or Freda a call and see what they recommend. I haven't tried the D600 yet, but a lot of people like it.

    The M500 paired with the 8B was a sledgehammer though.:bassist:
  3. LowRoller

    LowRoller Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2012
    Fairfield, CA
    I just purchased a Epifani Piccolo 600 that will hopefully work for me. I thought about the M500 but it was a little out of my price range for now. Thanks for chiming in with your suggestions.
  4. LowRoller

    LowRoller Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2012
    Fairfield, CA
    Well, my Epifani Piccolo 600 arrived today and after carefully unwrapping it and plugging it into my Phil Jones, I was in total bass bliss for about 5 minutes before it started going south on me. There seems to be something wrong with the gain section and the amp would peak on its own even at low volumes. I cut it off and then back on and it seemed fine until it warmed up and the same thing happened, even with no instrument plugged in. Lucky for me my Streamliner 900 arrived today as well, just back from Andy, it had some issues as well.
    After reading a lot of negative comments regarding Epifani customer service I was reluctant to call and to my surprise they answered right away and were quite helpful and gave me a couple of choices on how to replace the amp. Of course I can return it to the music store I purchased it from, (30 day return policy) but Nick assured me he could expedite one to me with less down time for me. He was quite friendly and assured me it would be taken care of.
    Now a few impressions regarding the amp. I have pretty much played a tube preamp for most of my bass player life. Mainly Eden and then Alembic for years but I purchased the Streamliner 900 based on recommendations from this site and paired with my Bergantino it sounds fantastic but with my Phil Jones, not so much.
    I was reluctant to try a solid state amp based on my own closed mindedness and I had a Mark Bass, Little Mark ll in the past and did not like it very much at all.
    Anyway I did a lot of reading on this site and thought that solid state amp might pair better with this cab. The Piccolo really intrigued me so I thought why not. If it did not break down in the first 5 minutes this thing kicks some serious butt.
    To my surprise my Phil Jones Neo sounded much bigger than it ever had previously. I am talking earth shaking clear clean lows punchy yet warm, articulate highs without being hissy and a midrange attack that was adjustable for anything I was capable of doing. All this with some pretty dead strings on my bass.
    Before I boxed up the Piccolo I was able to A/B it with the Streamliner and they were not similar in any way. Of course they are two very different animals but I must say with my Phil Jones the Epifani is the way to go. I am sure there are several amps that might work for me as well but no one chimed in on any suggestions other than Rollerberg, thank you. To wrap it up I would say,"If you are thinking of getting a Epifani Piccolo it seems to be an amazing, simple but powerful amp".
    Lucky for me this Saturday is just dinner jazz and my Fender Rumble 30 works quite nicely for these quiet moments. Not a whole lot of tone there but it is a very easy load in!
  5. lowfreqgeek

    lowfreqgeek Supporting Member

    Mar 15, 2010
    Albuquerque, NM
    Endorsing Artist: Regenerate Guitar Works, Honey Badger Pickups, Westone Audio
    I've considered pairing my Genz Benz ShuttleMax9.2 with a PJB C8. I think it might work well. However, I've used my PJB Bass Buddy to drive the AUX input on the SM9.2 into a Bergantino cab, and that is a VERY sweet combination. I can only imagine how a PJB D-600 might drive the Berg. And more desirable to me, how a D-600 would drive a C8 or two. I'd very quickly let go of my Bergantino cabs and SM9.2 in favor of a D-600/2x C8 rig.

    My two favorite amps ever were my Epifani UL502 and my Phil Jones Super Flightcase. They both kind of remind me of each other, so I'm not surprised to hear that the Piccolo paired with the Neo 8B is a really good combination.
  6. Jon Moody

    Jon Moody Commercial User

    Sep 9, 2007
    Kalamazoo, MI
    Manager of Digital Brand Development and Product Development at GHS Strings
    That's next on my list; already have the D600 and it kills with the 4B cab by itself. With the C8 it'll probably be massive in tonality, clarity and punch.
  7. Shumasonics


    Aug 24, 2011
    Hartford, CT
    I've been using an Aguilar tone hammer 500 with my pjb 8b for shows with an original rock band. I was able to quickly find the mid honk and dial it out with the parametric mid, and other than that run it eq flat with a bit of grit via the drive knob. Sounds good and a really easy rig to move with more power than I need.
    I will say that on 2 occasions where I let other bands use that rig, it wasn't quite loud enough for the extremely loud rockers. However, even then the bass player who used it was complimentary.