Phil Jones T-500

FWIW:

Phil Jones seems to put out the ultimate in double-take gear and threads such as this show up every few weeks - with about the same response. Seems the brief case has been one of better sellers. I'd do a TB search and you'll probably assemble enough to get some feel. Probably google search for "phil jones reviews" or the like will turn up more.

Seems somebody saw one of his amps at GC but I doubt they're a dealer. If they're on Musicians Friend web then they may be cuase it's the same outfit. If so, maybe you can go in check one out at GC.

 

I doubt that a $9,995 amp is worth the money. give me an Aggie or 400+ any day.

 

yeah... 6x8" pirahna speakers for the 6T (9x8" speakers for the 9B) (i think). I read about it in bass player. Looks pretty awesome!

edit: the cabinets in the bass player issue was a 24B and 8T (wow!)

 

All of the speakers in all Phil Jones cabs and combos are 5 inchers. I have a Briefcase and just love it. I really look forward to the day I can get a stack of those 5s to run a high power tube head thru (don't have the Jones 500, but what I have isn't too shabby).

 

thats right... 5 inch speakers, not 8

 

i saw a used stack at atlanta GC over the memorial day weekend. i think it was a 6T/9B stack with an M500 head. i was actually not very impressed. but that's, maybe, due to all the raves i've heard about them. i liked it more than i liked the programmable ampeg head, but i'm not about to give up my HT-112 and warwick preamp any time soon. especially for the salty pricetag on the PJB stuff. the stack was $4,995 used.

i really, really liked the graphic EQ. it was very well-voiced and very musical. it was one of the few well-done graphic EQs i've used.

the thing that really bothered me was that you could tell they were made in china. there's just something about chinese tolex that is very characteristic. it wasn't applied badly, it just felt...chinese. i mean, the only other tolex with which i'm intimately familiar was what we used at peavey, and it just felt better.

obviously this is a very minor point. overall i found the sound realtively enjoyable. but i guess there is something to be said for getting more when you pay more.

robb.

 

I don't think they're made in china. The Phil Jones factory is practically right down the street from me. They're got some great stuff to offer. I think I'll be getting a briefcase pretty soon once I raise the funds to allow it.

 

Yeh,

I just got the GC Holiday Catalogue and didn't see any PJ's in there so must have been a trade in. Makes you wonder what he walked out with. PJ stuff may be a lot of things but an array of speakers like a stadium light is not something players walk past.

Those speakers are really what interest me most. I wonder if they're all the same and what the parameters are. I've thought one or two of them may work well for my micro bass experiment.

I remember someone commenting about a hole around 60-80Hz in one of the PJ cabs they had or someone close to them had. Sounds a funny thing though. I sure wouldn't want to take a hit on something carrying that kind of tag.

Some say the Chinese are a rising power but looks like to me they've already rose with no indication of running out of gas any time soon. You don't want something to look cheesie and not take a hit but I'd rather have something that was cheesie look cheesie than be cheesie but appear to be built like a tank. That kind of tag shouldn't have any corners cut.

 

They are made in China.

 

The Briefcase is made in China.

 

As is the M-500, the Bass 8T, and the Bass24B, according to Bass Player's review.

 

Getz is correct. ALL PJB is made in China. That's where his factory is, and where he makes AAD home speakers as well. The place in St. Louis is a warehouse/office.
Corey

 

"Made in China" doesn't always mean cheaply made.
Just like
"Made in USA" doesn't means it's not 100% Chinese parts and just bolted together in the USA.

I think the first is more honest.

 

I agree for the most part. What I have a problem with is the fact that Chinese labor is about .63 a day. That should be reflected in the price of the products. $5000.00 for a Chinese amp is a bit much IMO, even if it's high quality. Look how good the Kustom Groove amps are for about $500.00. When Ashdown and Hamer went to China for some of their products, the prices were cut almost in half over the Korean product.
Just my 2 cents
Corey

 

If they sold them cheaper I don’t think they’d be taken as seriously. People tend to think paying higher prices equates to higher quality. At a lower price they’d be compared to Behringer.

It could be they cost so much because they weight so much and cost a lot to ship.