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Phil Jones T-500

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Hurezeanu, Nov 29, 2005.


  1. Hurezeanu

    Hurezeanu

    May 13, 2005
    WOW!

    Has anyone ever played this beast? I stumbled upon it over the net a while ago, and was totally caught off-guard by its specs:

    650 Watts RMS Tube Power
    110lbs
    $9995!!!!!

    Can anyone comment on the sound this behemoth gives?
     
  2. luknfur

    luknfur

    Jan 14, 2004
    DIXIE

    FWIW:

    Phil Jones seems to put out the ultimate in double-take gear and threads such as this show up every few weeks - with about the same response. Seems the brief case has been one of better sellers. I'd do a TB search and you'll probably assemble enough to get some feel. Probably google search for "phil jones reviews" or the like will turn up more.

    Seems somebody saw one of his amps at GC but I doubt they're a dealer. If they're on Musicians Friend web then they may be cuase it's the same outfit. If so, maybe you can go in check one out at GC.
     
  3. I doubt that a $9,995 amp is worth the money. give me an Aggie or 400+ any day.
     
  4. smperry

    smperry Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Martin Keith Guitars
    PJB is top notch stuff. I have the MOSFET version, or the M500, which I adore. Also have the 6T and 9B cabinets...high quality stuff that makes me happy. I'd love to try out the T500, but its price is out of my league, and its power is way more than I currently need.

    Marshall
     
  5. FunkSlap89

    FunkSlap89

    Apr 26, 2005
    Albany, NY
    yeah... 6x8" pirahna speakers for the 6T (9x8" speakers for the 9B) (i think). I read about it in bass player. Looks pretty awesome!

    edit: the cabinets in the bass player issue was a 24B and 8T (wow!)
     
  6. the_home

    the_home Supporting Member

    Jul 14, 2005
    Pensacola, FL
    All of the speakers in all Phil Jones cabs and combos are 5 inchers. I have a Briefcase and just love it. I really look forward to the day I can get a stack of those 5s to run a high power tube head thru (don't have the Jones 500, but what I have isn't too shabby). :bassist:
     
  7. FunkSlap89

    FunkSlap89

    Apr 26, 2005
    Albany, NY
    thats right... 5 inch speakers, not 8
     
  8. i saw a used stack at atlanta GC over the memorial day weekend. i think it was a 6T/9B stack with an M500 head. i was actually not very impressed. but that's, maybe, due to all the raves i've heard about them. i liked it more than i liked the programmable ampeg head, but i'm not about to give up my HT-112 and warwick preamp any time soon. especially for the salty pricetag on the PJB stuff. the stack was $4,995 used.

    i really, really liked the graphic EQ. it was very well-voiced and very musical. it was one of the few well-done graphic EQs i've used.

    the thing that really bothered me was that you could tell they were made in china. there's just something about chinese tolex that is very characteristic. it wasn't applied badly, it just felt...chinese. i mean, the only other tolex with which i'm intimately familiar was what we used at peavey, and it just felt better.

    obviously this is a very minor point. overall i found the sound realtively enjoyable. but i guess there is something to be said for getting more when you pay more.

    robb.
     
  9. I don't think they're made in china. The Phil Jones factory is practically right down the street from me. They're got some great stuff to offer. I think I'll be getting a briefcase pretty soon once I raise the funds to allow it.
     
  10. luknfur

    luknfur

    Jan 14, 2004
    DIXIE
    Yeh,

    I just got the GC Holiday Catalogue and didn't see any PJ's in there so must have been a trade in. Makes you wonder what he walked out with. PJ stuff may be a lot of things but an array of speakers like a stadium light is not something players walk past.

    Those speakers are really what interest me most. I wonder if they're all the same and what the parameters are. I've thought one or two of them may work well for my micro bass experiment.

    I remember someone commenting about a hole around 60-80Hz in one of the PJ cabs they had or someone close to them had. Sounds a funny thing though. I sure wouldn't want to take a hit on something carrying that kind of tag.

    Some say the Chinese are a rising power but looks like to me they've already rose with no indication of running out of gas any time soon. You don't want something to look cheesie and not take a hit but I'd rather have something that was cheesie look cheesie than be cheesie but appear to be built like a tank. That kind of tag shouldn't have any corners cut.
     
  11. getz76

    getz76

    Apr 3, 2005
    Hoboken, NJ
    They are made in China.
     
  12. The Briefcase is made in China.
     
  13. getz76

    getz76

    Apr 3, 2005
    Hoboken, NJ
    As is the M-500, the Bass 8T, and the Bass24B, according to Bass Player's review.
     
  14. Rock City

    Rock City

    Apr 8, 2001
    Boston,Ma
    Getz is correct. ALL PJB is made in China. That's where his factory is, and where he makes AAD home speakers as well. The place in St. Louis is a warehouse/office.
    Corey
     
  15. smperry

    smperry Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Martin Keith Guitars

    Hey Robb,

    Sorry to hear you weren't very impressed. I love mine....feel like I finally got my sound, but don't think it's for everyone. I like the graphic eq also; I've been playing it flat, but when I'm fooling around with the controls, I find it very natural. I use the parametric eq even less, and I've had better luck using it as a cut.

    I feel like the build quality overall is quite high (love the steel corners, the knobs, the feet and casters...but I've got to agree about the tolex...my amp is relatively clean save for some strange clean cuts on part of the tolex on the head. I wonder if PJB has addressed this issue on newer ones (my amp is no 14 or something), but don't know either way. The tolex on my old Peavey Microbass is still flawless. :) Still, I'm happy to be off of carpet.

    I paid considerably less for my rig than that...at this time in my life I wouldn't spend $5k on any piece of bass equipment.

    Marshall
     
  16. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    "Made in China" doesn't always mean cheaply made.
    Just like
    "Made in USA" doesn't means it's not 100% Chinese parts and just bolted together in the USA.

    I think the first is more honest.
     
  17. Rock City

    Rock City

    Apr 8, 2001
    Boston,Ma
    I agree for the most part. What I have a problem with is the fact that Chinese labor is about .63 a day. That should be reflected in the price of the products. $5000.00 for a Chinese amp is a bit much IMO, even if it's high quality. Look how good the Kustom Groove amps are for about $500.00. When Ashdown and Hamer went to China for some of their products, the prices were cut almost in half over the Korean product.
    Just my 2 cents
    Corey
     
  18. smperry

    smperry Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Martin Keith Guitars
    I don't necessarily think that applies here in terms of parts or labor. Comments from the man himself here: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2000835&postcount=10

    But I'm not up on everything...I just love my amp. :)

    Marshall
     
  19. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    If they sold them cheaper I don’t think they’d be taken as seriously. People tend to think paying higher prices equates to higher quality. At a lower price they’d be compared to Behringer.

    It could be they cost so much because they weight so much and cost a lot to ship.
     
  20. smperry

    smperry Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Martin Keith Guitars
    uhh...did you read the link in my post from the builder? it explains some reasons for cost. obviously people can decide what the amps are worth, but I don't think it's just weight! GC is asking too much IMO, but it's not Behringer!

    m

    Edit: Didn't mean to add to this thread going off-topic; maybe someone else will chime in about the actual head the first poster mentioned.