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pick me a new setup

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by johans, Nov 13, 2004.


  1. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    okay ..
    im on my experimenting mood for rig now :p

    i've tried GK 400RB-III with GK Backline 410BLX

    Ampeg SVT4-PRO / GK 1001RB-II thru Avatar B210

    i've tried hybrid and solid state

    which shouldi dive into next?

    - all tube head ..
    - qsc power amp + bass preamp?
     
  2. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    im really curious on this setupp

    QSC RMX 1450 + a preamp probably sansamp RBI, ... anyone for it?
     
  3. lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    The Republic of Texas
    preamp + power amp is my choice (depends on your priorities) -- weight can be a bit more, but gives you more choices and flexibility.

    if you can, i suggest saving the extra $$ to get the RMX1850HD (or if you think weight might be a factor down the road, a PLX model). the 1850 is over-engineered and will be more reliable under extreme conditions (not that reliability is really an issue -- but should be less likely to go into themal protection at an outdoor gig in the heat).

    if you want a very versatile inexpensive preamp, the rbi is probably your ticket. if you want fast, clean, with bass balls out the kazoo, try a BBE BMax (SS) -- can be had cheaper than the rbi.

    second hand you can pick up some very good preamps at reasonable cost.
    a very good, simple, very inexpensive preamp (if you can find one) is the yamaha pb-1.
    i like my demeter vtbp-201s.
    avalon u5, ampeg, alembic, aguilar, ashdown, kern, trace elliot, eden, swr, ebs, raven labs, are all good and all have different tones.
    the read purity is a really great preamp if you have the $$ (good luck finding one used).
     
  4. I think you should take one step back and re-look at the SVT4PRO. Tough to beat, IMO.
     
  5. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    yeah :)

    quite expensive though ..
    just wondering
    probably a 1450 or 1850

    then ..
    maybe get a used svp-cl :p
    haha
     
  6. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    anyone can compare QSC RMX and PLX series?
     
  7. MascisMan

    MascisMan

    Nov 21, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
    I currently have my bass rig for trade/sale. Its a BBE BMax preamp through a PLX 1602. Its very lightweight and versatile but its more than what I need. Comes in a 4 space SKB rack as well. PM me if interested..
     
  8. lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    The Republic of Texas
    Biggest difference is about 20 lbs. and the price.
    I haven't A/B'ed them.
    Most people say they sound the same.
    Some say the RMX has more balls.
    Some say the PLX sounds tighter.
     
  9. Schwinn

    Schwinn

    Dec 4, 2002
    Sarasota, FL
    I A/B'd them. There was a slight difference in tone (noticeable but not better or worse) but Bob Lee has said that power amps will sound different if their gains aren't properly matched. Anyway, the pre-amp and the bass is where most of your tone comes from so don't worry about differences in sound at the power amp level. The PLX is much lighter which is very important if you intend to move your gear around like I do.

    You can't go wrong because QSC amps are very reliable and customer service is unbeatable. I highly recommend them.
     
  10. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    yeah that's what i thought too :)

    so just wondering is PLX and RMX, which is higher quality as in, which is the entry level and which is not?
     
  11. joetheragman

    joetheragman

    Oct 4, 2004
    florida
    here you go:

    Two Sansamp RBI's through some big honking stereo power amp, with a footswitch to jump between sounds. You will need a chorus/reverb etc. unit in your rack.

    Or try the Rocktron Blue Thunder through a big honking power amp. It has all the effects already in it.

    As far as Cabinets, try the Schroeders. Light and powerful.

    Let us know what you end up experimenting with so we can have vicarious fun.
     
  12. lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    The Republic of Texas
    Quality should be very close to the same.
    You pay more for the weight-saving technology in the PLX (and the last I heard, the RMX are put together in China and the PLX in the USA).
     
  13. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    right on ..

    ok ..
    RMX is too heavy for me ..

    im probably more to QSC PLX ..
    or ..

    how about crown
    anyone using it?
    Crown XLS 402/602 should fits me best .. any reviews?
     
  14. Mobay45

    Mobay45 The artist formerly known as "Big Daddy"

    Apr 28, 2004
    Irving, TX
    Check out the Carvin amps. They are pretty light too.

    I am moving to a BBE BMax-T with a Carvin DCM1000.
     
  15. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    how does it sounds?
    any sample clip mobay?
     
  16. MascisMan

    MascisMan

    Nov 21, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
  17. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    thanks bro :)

    anyone ever A/B'd this BBE Bmax with Sansamp RBI?
     
  18. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    hey
    what's the difference between with eq? and without eq?

    personally i like those without :)

    and wait
    i like the BBE TMAX!
     
  19. johans

    johans G.U.I - Groovin' under influence

    Oct 28, 2004
    the Bay Area, CA
    thanks a lot man :)