Ok, I kicked this around before I posted it. Even though it's about pickups (kinda) it's not about their electronics, it's more about placement and mix than it is about the actual pickups themselves. So this set of questions is more about engineering a bass body and it's use more than it is about pickup types. So I posted in this forum instead of the pickups and electronics forum. Movin' on .... On a 34" scale bass, pickup location could be explained as ... ** division 4 - 2.125" from bridge - 1/16th of scale length (J "bridge" position). ** division 3 - 4.25" from bridge - 1/8th of scale (Pbass position, J "neck" position" and Ric "treble" position). ** division 2 - 8.5" from bridge - 1/4th of scale -aka "fret 24" (Ric "bass" position), ** division 1 - 17" from bridge - being 1/2 of scale, aka "fret twelve" or "one octave" (not a pickup position but part of dividing up the scale). I'm not well educated so these are the names I've given these positions just because I don't know any better. But they'll do for this conversation. Anyhow, I've noticed that: ** P-bass pickup seems to be placed at roughly division 3 (very middle of the road sound). ** Ric pickups are placed at division 2 and division 3 (well, we know what this sounds like). ** J pickups are at division 3 and division 4 (more higher voiced, almost nasal at times). So, that said, could a fella build a body with pickups (type?) in all 3 harmonic divisions and obtain tones that all 3 of those basses put out? It seems like not many basses use div-2 and div-3, most use div-3 and div-4 these days .. or so it seems anyhow. Could be a part of why so few of them sound like a Ric? (Ric = div-2 and div-3). I know I know ... active-vs-passive, neck wood, fret composition, electronics choices, body wood, date of birth, acidic levels of sweat on the fingrertips, lunar phase, mother's maden name, all of that also play a part. But if I build a body with pickups located at div-2 and div-3 would I stand more of a chance of getting 4001 and P-bass sounds? (I'm not a big J/Bridge PU sound fan). Also, when I hear Geddy on his 4001 in the earlier works (FTK, 2112, Hemispheres, and so on) was he using both pickups and using a mixture of those sounds (not to mention biamping them .. but that's another thread). Or was he using just the neck pu for the sounds he used? I would think he used them both because his Ric and his P sound pretty close, and the P has it's pickup in the same location as the Ric's "bridge" pickup .. there at div-3. So it seems like he'd have to have that pickup in the pile otherwise it seems like it would sound a lot different than the P (seems like it woud be bassier if he used just the neck pu). What I'm getting at: I'm thinking of a body with a neck pu at div-2 and another pickup at div-3 (no bridge pu per se .. neither the Ric or P have a pickup in div-4) .. adding a 3-way switch, using a mix knob when both pickups are on. Hoping for TONE. Thanks for tolerating my ignorance. I have to make do. (If this is confusing, sorry, I'm really tired. I know what I mean, just having a hard time getting it said).