pinewood any good?

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by therex, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. therex


    Jun 24, 2007
    well guys a simple question is pinewood any good for necks or bodys? specially for necks, there is a local luthier that makes really cheap guitars and basses made of pinewood and with no truss rod they look decent specially for the price(70$) so opinions?

    yes i know you must be wondering how is posible for someone to sell a handmade bass that cheap but here in peru its like that
    also sorry for my english if you had problems understanding it

    EDIT: they have a truss rod but its a non adjustable one
    also my friend has one of those basses, and older version and it plays quite good, but not sure if its made of pine also the neck is quite thick and i like that
  2. NO TRUSS ROD????:confused:
  3. therex


    Jun 24, 2007
    wait it has a truss rod but a non adjustable one, atleast that what i`ve been told
  4. vbasscustom


    Sep 8, 2008
    well, you can use pine for the body. i wouldnt for the neck, just because its so soft. get some really clear (no knots) pine, and go for it.
  5. Do any of this guys basses have :scowl:13 strings:scowl:
    damn jimmy and his music
  6. eleonn


    Aug 24, 2006
    Lima - Perú
    Therex no estarás refiriéndote a los bajos y guitarras sruiz (creo que así era la marca) no? Para un cuerpo no habría problemas siempre y cuando uses un acabado que sea duro. Un mástil no lo haría sólo de pino debido a la fuerza de las cuerdas sobre éste mucho menos si es el pino que usualmente se encuentra en Perú que es muy blando (hay muchas clases de pino con diferentes grado de dureza).

    Acá en Lima puedes encontrar maderas buenas y baratas como para arriesgarte con pino.
  7. mongo2


    Feb 17, 2008
    Da Shaw
    I wouldn't use soft pine for a neck either. But if as you say the finish is hard, then a pine body should be alright, in fact, I wouldn't care if the finish wasn't so hard since I don't mind the dings.
  8. mikeyswood

    mikeyswood Inactive

    Jul 22, 2007
    Cincinnati OH
    Luthier of Michael Wayne Instruments

    Won't you take me to Funkytown?
  9. OHSPyro89


    Jun 21, 2009
    I don't see why it isn't possible...

    With proper bracing inside the neck, I think it'd work. Grab some quarter sawn pine, and glue a few together. 2x4s would work since they are dried to a very low moisture content.

    I'd suggest either carbon fiber or steel rods in the neck along with the truss rod(s). It's doable, there would just need to be a different mindset while building the neck.
  10. Yeah my mind is still set on maple is cheaper than carbon fiber or steel rods.It's doable but doesn't make much $ince.
    Now for the body I'm curios on the tone qualities but hey I've made a bass body out of catalpa and am currently not working on one with an aspen body.
  11. eleonn


    Aug 24, 2006
    Lima - Perú
    The pine you can find in Perú is radiata and you can make a dent on it just seeing it in a wrong way. Even spanish cedar is harder than radiata. I wouldnt use it for a neck. I dont see a good reason to use such a soft wood when here you can find species far appropiate than pine, you just have to look (and pay) a little more.

    Body is another thing. I remember a body made by TBer Bud where he used pine once but not as the main material though but Ive read several times here about the guy wiht a big name @ guitar building using wood from pallets. Here again I see no reason to use pine even at the body when we can find in Lima at least 15 wood species better than pine.

    Therex por $70 no estoy tan seguro sobre que tan decentes sean los instrumentos que hace esta persona. Sólo en hardware "decente" gastarás mucho más de $70. Yo hace un año y medio me hice un bajo (puedes buscar las fotos acá) y sólo en las pastillas y el preamp gasté $400. Una vez usé un sruiz y déjame decirte que era una escoba con trastes y cuerdas. Si yo fuera tu ahorraría hasta tener unos $200 o $250 y me compraría algo Ibanez que abundan en las tiendas de Miraflores y del centro de Lima, los hechos en Korea te darán un sonido decente (al menos los GSR200 en bajos).
  12. vbasscustom


    Sep 8, 2008
    yeah, pine is pretty awful. you could use it for a body. but, for a neck, well. lets put it this way. if you used no re enforcement, theres a good 70 percent chance that your pine will bow so much when you tune up, that your action will be about 2 inches at the 12th, and another good 70 percent chance that the neck would snap. no, even with re renforcement, i f a neck is going to do that without it, i dont think i would want my neck made of pine.
  13. 62bass


    Apr 3, 2005
    There's a good reason pine is not used for bass or guitar necks. Not even the lowest priced Asian import dares to use it.

    As others have pointed out, there are far better woods available that won't cost much more. Don't scrimp and go cheap on the neck.
  14. therex


    Jun 24, 2007
    ok thanks for the info guys, i`ll try to test one these basses when i got the chance to, but i played my friends older model and its quite decent. i mean for 70$ you cant really complain, the neck is very thick wich is somethin i really like
  15. jworrellbass

    jworrellbass Commercial User

    May 17, 2009
    Colorado Springs CO
    Owner, builder: jworrellbass
    Pine is good for book cases, cheap furnature, kids toys, fire wood ect.. If your going to build a bass at least use something that looks
  16. ppk


    May 16, 2007
    HAHAHAHAHA. ohh boy that brings back som memories.

    But on a serious note. Is there a website or any pictures of these things are they built to a full scale?
  17. eleonn


    Aug 24, 2006
    Lima - Perú
    PPK I know of at least one builder here who started to build guitars on the 80's. This guy start to use pine to "stay" in a market flooded of asian guitars.