Hi guys, I was wondering if anybody could help me get that echo sound setting for Zoom B1. I have the delay similar to the guitar delay but i am not able to replicate the echo sound that is heard somewhere in the middle after that helicopter sound in Pink Floyd's Another brick on the wall... Thnx
I think you're referring to "The Happiest Days of our Lives," wedged between part I and II of "Another Brick in the Wall." It's pretty much just a simple delay with a short time and relatively short repeat. Not sure if you can really accomplish it on a Zoom, but I'm not really familiar with what that thing is capable of.
Do whatever you think works best. Half the fun of effects is finding out what they can do on your own.
I love the Pink Floyd stuff but have found it very hard to nail the sound. Some real effects voodoo going on there. But like JimmyM said it's fun looking for it.
Pink Floyd effect tones are gonna be hard to nail. It was the 70s, effects were analog and production was brilliant. I've heard my buddy play run like hell on guitar with a DD-3 and it sounded great. Improvising is the best part of the journey.
I know you guys are right but I am just frustrated trying to nail the sound which i have been trying for abt a month an a half or so.........It would be nice if any of u guys give me a slightest of ideas or settings(not necessarily on ZOOM B1) so that i can work on ...
Yes you can do it with the Zoom. But first a few caveats: The delay effect on the bass is transient. It's only used in 4 specific spots where otherwise the bass is dry. The effect is used on the first bass note hit (a D) after the helicopter sound quits at 0:30. It's used again on the bass hit at 0:34 (also a D) and then again on the rundown (from D to G) at 0:37 but the effect is abruptly cut off on the G hit (which is dry). The bass remains dry until the delay is used one final time at 1:00 on the A note. After that the bass is dry until the end of the song. This transient delay effect was obviously done in the studio so good luck trying to duplicate it live. You'll need to find a way to accurately kick the effect on and off and I don't think the foot controls on the Zoom are adequate for that. A better way is to get an On/Off pedal and put it in the loop. You can certainly have fun experimenting and learn a lot in the process. Also, the delay seems to be about 0.4 seconds duration with several strong repeats. If you know how to get the delay for the bass in "One of These Days" you can use that as a starting point because they're very close.
First of all, you have an incredible knowledge of effects. Do you hang around these parts often? Furthermore, the "transient delay" you refer to might be able to be replicated using a Dynamic Delay, seen here (3:45). Correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't heard the song in quite some time, but will that get in the ballpark?
Nice read on the effects. I had to go put the remaster in 5:1 on and read very closely. First off let me say, Floty made a career out of effects and studio/live "aural poems". Between 66 and Dark Side (help me out, 74?) they pretty much made a living making albums that stereo salesman used to sell stereos. And unless your full time roadies are audio engineers smokin' something real fine, you aren't going to nail the exact sound everytim. but like Jimmy said above, alot of the fun is getting close and exploring.
Perhaps they recorded the bass dry then added effects afterwards on certain notes. But then they plated this stuff live too. Maybe the roadies hit the effects though.
Wow it seems like u do know a lot about effects. thanks But its quite sad to know that my Zoom is not enough for the effect that i want ...........but takin ur suggestion i will try an get the delay as close as possible....
Does the bass on "The Happiest Days of our Lives" sound like a Jazz to anybody else? I know the standard Roger Waters setup is a Precision with flats, but the tone on that song sounds different than the Another Brick tracks that surround it (even factoring in the delay effect).