Pitch Shiftin

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Metalstevey, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. Metalstevey

    Metalstevey Guest

    Dec 1, 2014
    Hey hey, sorry if this has been asked a million times before, I did do a search but got no answers, do pitch shifters do what the say on the tin? I'm just a hobby bass player and like to play along to the odd Van Halen tune which requires tuning down half, if a pedal can do that for me then happy happy days indeed! also which ones are the best? Cheers big ears!
     
  2. friendlybass

    friendlybass Guest

    Jul 19, 2012
    Colorado
    Got some handy pitch shifter called tuning pegs, I hear they track excellent ;)
     
  3. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    No personal experience but the current contenders seem to be

    - Electro-Harmonix Pitch Fork
    - DigiTech The Drop
    - DigiTech Bass Whammy
     
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  4. thabassmon

    thabassmon

    Sep 26, 2013
    New Zealand
    I've had good results with using an ehx ring thing to transpose my bass down half a step for flat tuning. It can do more as well.
    I had good results with a digitech whammy 5 (the red one) as well the newer blue bass one should be very similar. I sold my whammy and kept the ring thing because the ring thing was more versatile, had presets and a blend knob.
    The whammy did have a couple of things it did better.
    Features the whammy has that are better than the ring thing
    Midi
    Up 2 octaves tone was better
    Can use pedal to go from one set harmony to another set harmony
    Built in expression pedal.
    Features that the ring thing has that are better than the whammy
    9 programmable presets
    Selectable harmony /transposition /whammy from -2 octaves to +2 octaves. Basically any interval you want
    Ring modulation, high and low sideband modulation with auto tune footswitch to tune modulation frequency
    Expression control of modulation frequency
    Blend control set any proportion of clean/pitchshifted you want
    Fine pitchshift control
    Built in LFO wave shapes triangle, square, sine, ramp up, ramp down to control pitchshift, vibrato, tremolo, Univibe effects
    LFO depth and speed controls
    External modulation input
    Dry output
    Expression control of Pitchshift and expression control over speed for tremolo and Univibe settings.
    Ehx pitchfork is also another option for transposition and is smaller. Digitech also have a new transposition pedal you may want to check out.
     
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  5. Metalstevey

    Metalstevey Guest

    Dec 1, 2014
    they work fine but fyi nobody likes a smartarse;)
     
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  6. Metalstevey

    Metalstevey Guest

    Dec 1, 2014
    thanks bassmon that is a very thorough answer!
     
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  7. Adamixoye

    Adamixoye A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?

    Apr 9, 2012
    Occasional Beta Tester for Confusion Studios, Singular Sound, and Source Audio
  8. friendlybass

    friendlybass Guest

    Jul 19, 2012
    Colorado
    My arse is only of average intelligence thank you!
    Okay ill stop
    As to your actual question ive heard great things about the ehx pitchfork so far, affordable, small, and sturdy as hell.
     
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  9. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism

    You want to use a pitch shifter to play Van Halen? You are better of re-tuning your instrument in my experience. Pitch shifters will change the tone somewhat.

    It is also worth noting that some Van Halen songs fall between notes, a pitch shifter will not hit these. On VH1 A is somewhere between A and A Flat, not a half-step down.
     
  10. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    An alternative would be to listen to the songs in a "guitar trainer" or smartphone app where you can pitch shift the song instead of your bass. Just a different idea, an app costs less than a pedal.
     
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  11. To match pitch on recordings you will need something variable like the Whammy or a multi effect with an expression pedal. Zoom B1Xon might just fit the bill or an old Digitech BP8.
     
  12. jumblemind

    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Knoxville
    But so much latency between songs...
     
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  13. friendlybass

    friendlybass Guest

    Jul 19, 2012
    Colorado
    Wireless, footswitchable tuners with presets that's the answer. Oh and ill need those lightweight :p
     
  14. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    Or you could go all out with a MIDI bass and tune the sound module any which way you need. :)
     
  15. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    Just buy a 2nd bass...
     
  16. mikefromchurch

    mikefromchurch Guest

    Jan 23, 2014
    better to be a smart arse than a dumb arse :D :p
     
  17. mikefromchurch

    mikefromchurch Guest

    Jan 23, 2014
    our old worship leader would burn us a CD in our performance key. Usually being far from the original, I called it "the alvin and the chipmunks praise collection featuring grimlock and the satanic choir"

    Would it not make sense just to get a 5 string? or at the very least, use an alternate tuning that you understand? If someone can play an easy instrument like a guitar in drop d all day long, any bassist should be able to do it
     
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  18. jeffbrewer

    jeffbrewer

    Jul 6, 2009
    Atlanta
    Tuning down a half step is quite common. A lot of Gospel bassist tune down a half step bc a lot of that genre of music is played in flats. Also, when you see bassist and guitarists swapping guitars for a particular song during a show, a lot of times its bc the song is in a lower tuning and they have those guitars ready for those particular songs during the show. It just makes the transitions quicker. I normally play a 5 string, so I don't have to deal with this situation much, but when I play a 4, I understand the frustration.
     
  19. Adamixoye

    Adamixoye A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?

    Apr 9, 2012
    Occasional Beta Tester for Confusion Studios, Singular Sound, and Source Audio
    Having two basses or guitars is a solution with certain advantages and disadvantages. So is using an extended range bass and playing at a different neck position. So is using some sort of pitchshifter.

    I'm PRETTY SURE the OP is interested in the final option.
     
  20. Metalstevey

    Metalstevey Guest

    Dec 1, 2014