I was doing some trading with fellow TB'er JT (great guy by the way), who is endorsed by Tobias basses. There seems to be a lot of negative flak about new Tobias basses being inferior to the older ones, shoddy quality, etc. Well, I had a chance to play 2 of JT's supposedly 'inferior' Tobias', and everything I've heard here on TB was DEAD WRONG!!!! Now, to preface this comment, I've played 3 pre-Gibson Tobias', so I know the real deal. However, these basses were every bit as good as the older ones. Fit and finish was flawless, fretwork was impeccable, and the tone........HOLY CRAPOLA BATMAN!!!! Monstrous sound coming out of the speakers. The bart EQ was very similar to the current MTD setup and I could get many variations on what was already a phenomenal sound set flat. The B string on both of his basses were better than a whole boatload of more expensive basses that I've owned in the past (see profile), and all in all I am very PISSED at JT for fueling my GAS and keeping me up at night. By the way, the specs on the basses..... Both were bolt-on killer B's 1) Mahogany body core with stunning spalted maple top, maple neck with purpleheart accents, rosewood board 2) SOLID!!! Zebrawood body, same neck config. In short, don't count out these wonderful basses when considering stepping into a high end bass.