holy crap. thats as close as i can come to describing it with text. unbelievable sound out of it. very powerful, but very defined at the same time. the tone was so punchy with a stingray. i think its exactly what i want. it's definitely looking like i'm gonna sell my 400+ in the next few months, and get this instead. it suits me much better than the 400+ ever did. thanks for the recommendations.