drove 2 hrs north to electric city music in Kaukauna, WI - the place i bought my old Thumb NT from new 4 years ago. anyway, here were the test subjects. my favorite bass of the day. the action was ridiculously low, and with the speed ramp it felt like i wasn't doing anything. unfortunately, the 36" scale length kept tripping me up (as well as the 6th string) but the thing still played great. the tone was probably my 2nd favorite of the day because it was all bridge pickup had a chunkier neck than i thought it would, but was lots of fun to play. i expected it to have some vic wooten vibe going on (i mean - it's essentially a vic wooten sig bass with barts) but it honestly didn't come close. the pickups were too close to the neck to get any of the sizzle/growl and i think barts just don't do it either. felt really familiar towards the nut compared to my warwick - but the right hand was very uncomfortable for me. i think it was a combination of pickups being in wierd spots (for me) and the string spacing didn't seem to change much from the nut to the bridge. was very loud acoustically, but i felt it seriously lacked growl when amplified. it was all bass and treble. i don't have a picture of the roscoe i played, it was a 4 string that, again, played great but didn't have the tone i was looking for. i also totally didn't dig the super glass polish body. nor do i have a picture of the warrior i played (purple heart top, bolt on, one MM5 pickup) and i didn't even bother plugging it in - there were some serious construction poopers on this thing and it just didn't feel right. so there's one other bass that i played that i liked the tone of more than any of these basses.... a 4 string warwick corvette standard with active pickup upgrade. it killed every other one of these basses tone wise (IMO) nothing came close to the growl or definition that this bad boy contained. so here are my non-final unofficial conclusions: every bass i've played (today and previously) with barts had lots of deep bass and a very modern sound (scooped and warm) but had no growl. but - they all also had pickups far away from the bridge, which is the #1 factor in determining how an instrument sounds. the only bass with barts i've ever liked is the ibanez gary willis sig - and that things pickup is near the bridge. it's too bad i'm hooked on the warwicks tone - because that elrick KILLED. i know he could make me something i'd be happy with, but why bother when i could get a warwick that will make me just as happy for cheaper? wow...that ish was long.