Playing consecutive notes on the same fret, different string

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by ZoSoIV, Apr 19, 2007.


  1. ZoSoIV

    ZoSoIV

    Mar 28, 2007
    Massachusetts
    I find this very hard, especially if the song requires you hit them one after another very quickly. This can get very frustrating fretting like this with one finger, and instead of repeatedly alternating strings with the same finger I can either lay one finger across both strings, or use an adjacent finger to fret the different string. But in the former case, I can hardly ever get the notes to sound equally-well fretted (know what I mean by that?) and it is hard to mute one of the two strings when needed. The latter method is also difficult because it feels unnatural and doesn't seem to be a reliable technique.
    Got some advice for me to make this easier? Thanks!
     
  2. Practice barre chording, that is, using one finger to depress all the strings equally. It's mainly just a finger strength thing, but if you practice it enough you'll be able to do it with any finger, although the pinky is alot less reliable for this. Also check that your action is lowered a bit, as high action (string height) can make this alot harder. Hope this helps. And if one string needs to be muted, you eventually get to the point where you can intuitively apply less or more pressure to the required strings as needed.
     
  3. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    +1
     
  4. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    HI

    Practice chords, like a guitarist.

    barre chords, inparticular

    Rob
     
  5. ZoSoIV

    ZoSoIV

    Mar 28, 2007
    Massachusetts
    Thanks for all your help. You really provided some deep insight and valuable opinions that greatly shaped my ever-molding sense of musical embellishment. Years from now I will thank Brad Johnson for everything that has every happened to me, bar none.
     
  6. both barring, and using adjacent fingers is valid, and it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish in the context of the notes before, and the notes after...

    I do a bit of both...

    I tend to use different fingers more towards the nut where more pressure is required. and I tend to bar more towards the bridge, where less pressure is required and I'm more likely to be playing triads, as opposed to just double stops.
     
  7. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    If you want to be an ass about it, fine. I'm AGREEING with what he (Fettbass) suggested. Would you like me to re-type it?

    If I DIDN'T AGREE with him I would've said so. Bottom line, I already know how to do this and you don't... and I've just filled you in on something else you probably already knew.
    :bassist:

    While you're at it you might want to learn how the interweb works.
    :D
     
  8. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    Brad...you're still my hero!



    :D
     
  9. ZoSoIV

    ZoSoIV

    Mar 28, 2007
    Massachusetts
    Sorry Brad I had no idea that typing +1 was a way of saying "I agree with the above poster", comes off more as "Hey look I'm adding to my post count". My mistake I suppose.
     
  10. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    No problem:D. Give that advice a try... it won't happen overnight but it'll happen. It's not only good for playing multiple notes in the same fret position, it can be really handy for patterns that include multiple notes in the same position. I can expand on that if you don't understand.


    Trust me, I don't need to add to my post count;)
     
  11. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    Me, the most hated man on TB (according to recent polls)?

    Thanks, Jim.
    :D
     
  12. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    I know I haven't hangin' around as much...how did you ever wrestle that 'honor' away from Bruce?!
    :confused:
     
  13. WillPlay4Food

    WillPlay4Food Now With More Metal! Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Orbiting HQ
    Nah, that would be

    postwhore++


    :D
     
  14. If you're playing the same fret on multiple strings you can either barre or sometimes I like to use the A major chord shape.

    Personally I don't care for the whole +1 thing since I see it as just being lazy to write something, anything, even "I agree with him." It's bad form as far as "proper" writing goes. But I don't think it's such big a deal that I'd make a sarcastic post about it. It still gets the point across.
     
  15. middy

    middy

    Mar 14, 2007
    Texas
    I do like PilbaraBass, whatever is easier at the moment.
    I usually barre and kind of rock back and forth to mute the one I'm not playing. Yes, this is hard at first and takes practice to sound clean.
    Toward the nut, it usually ends up being ring-and-pinky or middle-and-ring, one finger on each string.
     
  16. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    I was informed of that recently... and I was crushed.
    :smug:
     
  17. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    So you would repeat the sentiment you agreed with? Type it over? I wouldn't.

    +1 shows agreement. Heck, YOU even know that. Since most people know that, I don't see where it's lazy. Knowing more than one person thinks the same thing can help show a consensus.
    :D

    BTW When did proper writing involve the type of immediate back and forth you see here?
     
  18. +1 barring, but it is not the do all say all. You should practice the difficult technique of fretting adjacent notes with one finger without barring. You were complaining that this technique is hard, which is why you should practice it. What i mean is explained by this exercise:

    Without changing position or pivoting, use on finger per fret without barring:

    -1-2---------------------1-2-
    -----2-1-------------2-1-----
    ---------1-2-----1-2---------
    -------------2-1-------------

    etc...

    You should also practice this exercise with other finger combinations and with string skips, etc. Basically, take the exercise and get to the point that you can play it quickly, accurately, cleaningly, easily, and with any variation that you can think of. This is one of the more difficult ypes of exercise that we have on the EB, but if you can get it moving, you'll be a lot closer to virtuosity.
     
  19. It is lazy writing. This is obviously my opinion, but I wouldn't be surprised if any of my former professors agreed with me. I don't see how using two more characters to write "ditto," something that's far more expressive and indicative of the writer's style, is that much harder than using netspeak to write "+1." By stating "+1" and not adding anything else at all it doesn't contribute much to discussion. Why not just have threads where the original poster says something and all the replies are "+1" or "-1" depending on agreement or disagreement? To me, the posts that have been the most helpful were the ones where people have contributed their own experiences and opinions. I don't even mind shorthand terms like "YMMV" or "AFAIK" or "IMHE," even though it took me time to remember what all of them meant and I prefer not to use them myself, because those terms usually include actual writing from the person, not a quote from someone else.

    What's the point of emphasizing something I already know and explained in my post as an opinion except just to give an attitude of superiority? I even stated that I respected its usage despite not particularly caring for it. You're a good guy and all, Brad, and I respect your opinions and experience, but there's a reason why some people gave up on the Markbass F1 thread, and it had nothing to do with being wrong or right.

    To get back on topic, that's an interesting practice technique, Chad. I definitely want to incorporate that into my practices since I don't barre very often and should.
     
  20. RiddimKing

    RiddimKing

    Dec 29, 2004
    "Bar none?" "Barre none"

    I liked it...I thought it was a joke.

    I don't mind the Plus 1 Emphasis. Consensus is what you're looking for when you post a question.
     

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