Playing in Church

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by saltine3, Apr 29, 2000.

  1. saltine3


    Apr 29, 2000
    Hello to all you bottom-liners out there, got a question for you. Playing on a church worship team can be a challenge, especially when effects come into the mix. I use a Boss bass chorus pedal, but that's about all the effects I go with right now. Anybody use anything else? I thought about poppin' on a Boss OC-2 octave divider (cool pedal) or even a bass synth. I don't really like any of the multi effect pedals out there right now, kinda cheesy sound and all. Any suggestions?
  2. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    What's wrong with playing a dry signal? (dry = sans fx)

    Will C. [​IMG]

    You can't hold no groove if you ain't got no pocket!

  3. saltine3


    Apr 29, 2000
    Absolutely nothing, I agree with you 100%, but every once in a while it can add some color that's all. The chorus is really nice for some of the more modern songs we do, but most of the time I am playing with a "uneffected" signal, I adjust the tone with my onboard eq and pickup mix. I was just fishing for some tips. Later!

  4. Deicide666


    May 1, 2000
    well, im not into church at all, but i do love bass. i ask u, why do you need any other effects than a chorus? I would say to try to focus on your playing and not get wrapped up in buying this effect or that.

    playin 4 s8n
  5. Steve Lawson

    Steve Lawson Solo Bass Exploration! Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2000
    Birmingham, UK
    Church is a pretty unique playing environment, and very varied too, which means that you can actually use loads of effects or no effects depending on the context. If your church has a standard worship band line-up, then a lot of the more out there sounds aren't going to work, but an envelope filter can be great fun - try the Electro Harmonix Q-Tron.

    I've used almost every effect imaginable in a church context - distortion, delay, reverb, chorus, flange, wah, etc. etc. often to provide ambient background music for readings, prayers etc. Bass is such a versatile instrument and can be used so well to set a mood for church stuff.

    The E-Bow is a great tool for setting moods in church, especially on fretless. you can fade notes in, sustain them, and with a delay unit build whole chords and washes of sound. And it'll work for other things, not just church - chill out rooms in clubs, poetry reading, meditation, soundtracks etc...

    There are no limitations beyond your imagination! :oops:)

  6. Bass Case

    Bass Case

    May 20, 2000
    I use both a Chorus and a Overdrive (distortion) pedal. The Chorus adds a more fuller sound during slowere songs and the overdrive can be used to substitute an electric guitar.
  7. SlapDaddy


    Mar 28, 2000
    I've been doing Praise and Worship music for four years after 25 years of club music and I've found the least prejudice to effects in this type of music. If it sounds cool,do it!
  8. phil_chew


    Mar 22, 2000
    I play in a church band as well. But in my view (and mine only) most gospel or Praise/Worship songs do not seem to call for effects. Other than some compression (which is not really an effect), I pay it mostly dry. My job is to provide a good bass line and drive the rhythm section. I play with a lead guitarist, and he is the one with the effects e.g. chorus, distortion, etc.
  9. SlapDaddy


    Mar 28, 2000
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by phil_chew:
    I play in a church band as well. But in my view (and mine only) most gospel or Praise/Worship songs do not seem to call for effects. Other than some compression (which is not really an effect), I pay it mostly dry. My job is to provide a good bass line and drive the rhythm section. I play with a lead guitarist, and he is the one with the effects e.g. chorus, distortion, etc.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sometimes the guitar player is doing the acoustic part and I'm doing the fuzzy power chords on the c and g strings of my 6 string. The effects really work good then.

  10. puppet654

    puppet654 Guest

    Apr 6, 2000
    I'm just starting to try out for my church bands and stuff. I got a trial once for a Vacation Bible School(VBS) thing playing for kids, and I was just playing dry, but I had wished that I had my BFX 708 then. It's a cheesy pedal, but it's fun for that kind of stuff, not really hard, but fun. I think that a Bass Synth would be AWESOME for some praise songs. I think that church bands and praise and worship music are so fun because you have so much room to improv and mess around, you can turn worship music into almost any style imaginable, and it's just so fun to be playing just for God. Peace out and Lord guide you!! &lt;&gt;&lt;

    "if cows could fly, everyone would carry umbrellas"
  11. SlapDaddy


    Mar 28, 2000
    As I had stated earlier there is less prejudice towards effects in Praise music than in any other(that I'm aware of) and the neat thing is that this music uses elements of EVERY style of music from classical to country and all the fringes too! Of course the best part is that we are praising the creator of music itself.

    [This message has been edited by SlapDaddy (edited August 01, 2000).]
  12. Hmmm... I'd have to say that the most important (and only) effect I've used when playing church music and in churches is good ol' EQ.
  13. lowb


    Jul 27, 2000
    London, UK
    I'm hoping to get a Moogerfooger, or a Lovetone Meatballs, Envelope filter, so i can get some really squelchy slap tones, could work great on certain songs, however i'd probably be the only one enjoying it and it would probably detract from god, which i don't want to do.

  14. SlapDaddy


    Mar 28, 2000
    I'll bet God digs squelchy slap tones! BTW I like your name. I read in a Carol Kaye interview that she stated that church people "love" the low b stuff. Me, too.

    [Edited by SlapDaddy on 08-14-2000 at 12:50 PM]
  15. Craig H

    Craig H

    Mar 23, 2000
    Kansas City
    Since everyone in my praise band runs direct to the board (no on-stage amps), I have been using a Digitech BP-8. I regularly use the BP-8's compression, EQ and volume pedal. The BP-8 also has a single 12AX7 tube that provides a nice, warm tube preamp sound. Sometimes when things get a little frisky, I call up the wah programs.

  16. frost13


    Apr 12, 2000
    Since you are deciding to use effects.....perhaps a multifx board would be good to try as many out as possible...and even coming up with some new ones. Just trust your feelings and go for it!
  17. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Maybe I should start a new thread for this, but the title would be the same, so hey! ... OK, Let's say I'm an agnostic or a Buddhist or something, but I'd like to play in a so-called "praise band" just because I like the style of music. (Let's say I was raised as a Christian, but grew out of it, on purpose.) Are there many churches out there that would tolerate me in their band, even though I insist I will not be converted, so don't try? Just curious.
  18. lowb


    Jul 27, 2000
    London, UK
    I would say that with a "praise Band" the emphasis should be more on the "praise" than the "Band", so if you don't wonna praise i guess you shouldn't be in the band!

  19. Unless you are sure that the use of any effect is going to enhance the worship experience of the congregation I would, IMHO, steer clear of using any effects at all.
    Remember, the emphisis should be on worship not performance.

    Try bringing up the subject with your worship leader and perhaps during a practice session, use which ever effect you think is what you want. See how it sounds, see what your worship leader thinks and go from there.