Please help me. Semi urgent.

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Drop1, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Drop1


    Mar 28, 2019
    I've starting to develop trigger finger in my left index.
    It is VERY string dependent .
    Elixirs which have grown on me and boomers both cause finger lockup the next morning.
    I was adapting to higher tension strings as I like the sound and the control when playing at speed.
    The roto 66 does this as well.

    So what I'm looking for is something that sounds similar to boomer or elixer nickels with less tension.
    I'm not fretting hard at all. Juuuussst enough to not let it buzz out. The smaller 40/95 boomers helped some but not enough.

    I really am looking for a 45 to 105 set that are bendy but still have that tight snap back of higher tension strings.
    Texture is another big one. I don't dig grippy strings.

    I'm thinking maybe pure blues. They feel nice but are a bit lacking in highs.
    All the strings I love the sound of seem to be high tension and a bit bright.
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  2. Two choices...

    Dunlop Super Bright Nickels.
    DR Sunbeams - a bit more high end sparkle than the Pure Blues and very flexible.
  3. Welcome to the party!

    I've had four trigger release surgeries (two on right and two on left) in the last three years.
  4. Drop1


    Mar 28, 2019
    Of course its 2 that my gc doesnt stock.
    The only dunlops they have a the Marcus Miller
    And they dont do the Sunbeams. Hi beams, pure blues and fat beams only.
  5. Drop1


    Mar 28, 2019
    Mine isnt that bad yet. I dont want to let it get there either. I have a set of strings that work great for me but I've forgotten what they are. Went through too many sets in too short a time and I have 14 sets not in boxes.
  6. ixlramp

    ixlramp Guest

    Jan 25, 2005
    Effort to fret is determined by the (scientific) tension, which is determined by string mass, which is primarily determined by gauge.
    So you have to reduce the gauges, you can't stay with 45-105.
    If 40-95 still aren't low enough tension go to the next lighter set, 35-90 or similar, in either Boomers, Elixir nickels or a brand/string line you know you like. Just keep reducing gauges until you're happy.

    Don't buy from a guitar shop as the choice is too limited, buy mail order.
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  7. Drop1


    Mar 28, 2019
    This is what I have

    Pure blues
    Hi beams
    D addy nylon
    D addy nickels
    MM dunlops
    EB flats
    Black beauties (actually very low tension but a bit dark)
    Elixir nickels
    EB cobalts
    Ghs boomer 40/105, 45/100,45/105
    Roto swing 66
  8. Drop1


    Mar 28, 2019
    My issue with that is that the stings start getting a bit sloppy feeling fir my right hand.

    I've gone through LOTS of strings lately and 2 things seem to determine how bendy they are. Over all tension and how tightly the coils are wrapped
    I've learned that if you bend a string in a circle naturally, not forcing, the tighter the circle, the easier to fret. That is a general rule I've discovered recently.
  9. ixlramp

    ixlramp Guest

    Jan 25, 2005
    Flexible strings won't help, as stiffness has very little effect on fretting effort, because when you fret, the string isn't being bent to any significant degree.
    The plucking hand feel stiffness more.

    Resistence to fretting or string bending is determined by tension due to the mechanics of the forces.
    A displaced string causes the tension forces either side of your finger to no longer be oppositely directed, a resulting force is created that is the lateral component of the tension forces.

    An ideal string may be one that is low tension but quite stiff, this will have low fretting effort but 'feel tighter' than it actually is.
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  10. If you want the strings to be easy for fretting but firm enough for plucking, you might want to stick with a light set of hex core strings (such as 40-95 Boomers) and set up your bass with a lower action.
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  11. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    @SLaPiNFuNK may be able to ID your fave strings from a pic of the silks and ball end.
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  12. ixlramp

    ixlramp Guest

    Jan 25, 2005
    Unfotunately you can't have it both ways, you can't have a low tension string that is also high tension =)
    However, as mentioned, a stiffer string may help make the strings 'feel less sloppy' to the plucking hand while still being easier to fret.
    (Note, tension and stiffness are completely different and independent things.)
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  13. I respectfully disagree as my experience indicates otherwise. All else being equal, the Boomers 45-105 are harder on the fretting hand than the Sunbeams 45-105. Stiffness/flexibility DOES affect how they react to the fretting action.
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  14. Drop1


    Mar 28, 2019
    I have 14 sets like I said. I agree with you.
    For instance, black beauties 105-45 fret as easy as boomer 40-95. Theres definitely something beyond just tension. From swapping back and forth, how tight they are wound seems to have an affect. Just as much as size in my experience.
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  15. DanGroove


    Apr 27, 2017
    Have you seen a specialist yet? I've heard if you let it go too long the odds of successful surgical release diminish.
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  16. Keger Jupit

    Keger Jupit Inactive

    May 10, 2018
    The Great PNW!!
    I'm not surprised someone beat me to this. @Drop1, you've been posting quite a few string-related posts since you joined, but @DanGroove has a VERY good point here. Better to get this figured out before you do permanent damage. Then, continue your quest for the perfect set of strings.

    I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 45, have played for 30 yrs, & have had enough manual labor jobs to have done some damage to joints & such. Don't take this issue lightly, my friend.
  17. Lance Bunyon

    Lance Bunyon Supporting Member

    Jul 17, 2018
    You're gonna have to learn to stretch your fingers.
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  18. Lobster11

    Lobster11 Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    Sorry, but I don't buy it: It just doesn't seem plausible to me that subtle differences in string tension are the difference between suffering trigger-finger symptoms or not. I think you're barking up the wrong tree looking for a solution in string choice.
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  19. jthisdell


    Jun 12, 2014
    Roanoke, VA
    I had trigger finger in my left pinky, playing Obligatos on eub so low tension, the strings were not really a factor. I solved mine by wrapping my finger with medical tape every night to keep it from closing at night. That and playing / practicing a bit less until it passed. Good luck.
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2019
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  20. Thomastik Infeld Jazz Bass Strings are the way to go in my opinion. Lower gauge with tight response. I have been using them for years and have converted lots of guys that have used similar string/setup you described. Of course switching to a lighter gauge will take some setup time on your bass to get it just right, but man I won’t play any other string.

    I agree with Lobster11 though. Another thing to consider is really analyzing your technique. We all developed bad habits over the years and I have had to go back and break some myself. I started angling my wrists too much in my plucking hand and started to cramp in my hands on longer gigs. I also noticed my dexterity wasn’t what it once was. Really focusing on and being critical of your technique might help some of he issues you’re having.
    Anyways, best of luck and I hope you get it to where you aren’t experiencing trigger finger anymore!!
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