Please play along here - If I wanted to spec out a growl-monster..

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Mark_70, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. Mark_70

    Mark_70

    Dec 31, 2013
    Minnesota
    If you were to spec a 4-string fretted bass, based solely on having that mid-range growl.. How would you spec it?

    Jazz pick ups ?
    Bridge PU in 70's position (closer to the bridge) ?
    Passive electronics?
    What brand of pups ?
    Swamp ash body?
    Maple neck ? Or laminated maple/wenge neck?
    Maple fingerboard?

    Or just get a vintage Fender Jazz?

    I realize most of the growl is not in the bass at all, but how you pluck it (hard and close to the bridge) and in the amp / cabinet, but just for kicks - how would the ultimate growler configuration look?

    Regards
    Mark
     
  2. Linnin

    Linnin

    Jul 19, 2012
    Linningrad, Earth
    Fender Standard Dimension with single p'up. Fender American Standard Jazz with stock Custom Shop p'ups. Toss on a set of GHS Big Core Bass and you're right there in downtown Growl City. Rosewood fretboards for the deep in the throat roar.
     
  3. OldDirtyBassist

    OldDirtyBassist Guest

    Mar 13, 2014
    Fender Precision Bass with alder body and a Duncan Quarter Pounder w/old Fender clanky bridge, maple neck with rosewood fingerboard...

    Maybe somebody could explain capacitors and pots.
     
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  4. Get an epi thunderbird, put thunderbuckers in, string roto 66s and call it a day
     
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  5. esa372

    esa372

    Aug 7, 2010
    Exactly... a Fender AV'75RI Jazz Bass.
     
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  6. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    Jazz bass w true single coils
     
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  7. Rich Terry

    Rich Terry BassOmatic

    Sep 14, 2014
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Everyone seems to have an opinion but no one has asked:

    What type of music do you play?
    What type of amp or set up do you play?
    Live or recording?

    Just but the American Standard Jazz and be done.
     
  8. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    I would have to say one word. "Warwick"
     
  9. Bass_Thumper

    Bass_Thumper

    Oct 20, 2009
    Madison, MS
    Three band StingRay will have you in growl city in a hurry.
     
  10. Mark_70

    Mark_70

    Dec 31, 2013
    Minnesota
    Music: jazz, funk, rock
    amp: SVT3 pro, Bergantino CN112 cab
    Live

    Regards
    Mark
     
  11. Mark_70

    Mark_70

    Dec 31, 2013
    Minnesota
    Funny that the Stingray and Warwick are mentioned.. I have a maple Warwick streamer with Bartolini's. It growls with the best of them.
    The other one I have is a Sterling w/ 3 band EQ. Different character and an awesome sound, I'd have to agree on the 'Wick.. Not sure I can do a whole lot better than that. Most improvement is most likely in my technique..

    Regards
    Mark
     
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  12. Rich Terry

    Rich Terry BassOmatic

    Sep 14, 2014
    Fort Worth, Texas
    How about an EBMM USA Stingray. I have a MIA JAZZ and US Stringray and MIA P/J, All sound good.
     
  13. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Out of Hundreds of basses owned, Warwick Corvette 5'r had most growl hands down. You couldn't turn it off. I have a Stingray 5 Classic which I love but you need to coax the growl out of it. Warwicks just growl more especially the Bubinga/ovangcol/wenge ones.
     
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  14. OldDirtyBassist

    OldDirtyBassist Guest

    Mar 13, 2014
    I think he wants growl and not zing.
     
  15. AciDBatH666

    AciDBatH666

    Feb 13, 2008
    Lafayette, LA
    Growl? Yes, get you a Warwick. Just listen to the first 30 seconds. That's all you need.



    I believe Nick's using a Warwick Dolphin here, but I've heard close tones to this out of a double buck $$
     
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  16. 35hundy

    35hundy Guest

    Oct 12, 2014
    BC, Canada
    Seymour Duncan Dual JJ or HH close to bridge
    Active electronics
    Swamp ash body
    Wenge Neck/Fretboard

    or just get a Warwick
     
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  17. rojo412

    rojo412 Sit down, Danny... Supporting Member

    Feb 26, 2000
    Cleveland, OH.
    The Warwick Fortress Masterman was the growliest stock bass I ever played.
    But to spec something from scratch:

    All-maple body
    Bridge pickup (or pickups) very close to the bridge, humbuckers preferred.
    High mass bridge (Hipshot brass)
    Wenge neck
    Filter based preamp (ACG) to adjust the frequencies to find the growliest growl
    Stainless strings

    That's what I'd do for angry growl. Add a fretless ebony, ebanol, or epoxy finished board with those roundwounds and you may scare the neighbors.
     
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  18. lowphatbass

    lowphatbass **** Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    west coast
    IMO, dual pickups, good low action and solid/consistent technique seems to be a good formula for a consistent, well behaved growl. Growl is a pretty general term....when I think growl I think of a bass that can roar and/or bark but is being "held back" and tamed a bit. Pick-up interaction/cancellation and limited string movement are important, naturally occurring factors. Eq is going to be important as well.
     
  19. Bassitudes

    Bassitudes Guest

    Dec 16, 2014
    Toronto, Ontario
    Stock warwick corvette gets busy. the trick is hard woods (if unfinished) or hard surface area, especially on the top so you don't have the body eating vibration, the right kind of strings, ceramic pickups (preferably for more definition on the overtones that define a low growl) and the right attack to get a growl-y sound *edit as well as a bridge that doesn't move much so your string can do the heavy lifting and slam out it's tones instead of getting it's vibes lost in the wrong places.. my corvette has all this, ovangkol neck i think, swamp ash busy (hard and heavy, heavy doesn't really matter but the hardness does), light and elastic feeling EB strings, Stock MEC passive pickups and when i want to get the growl i can easily.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2014
  20. friendlybass

    friendlybass Guest

    Jul 19, 2012
    Colorado
    Carvin lb50, these pickups put a growl on everything unless you hit them coil taps, then they are clear and zingy WP_20141101_17_13_43_Pro.jpg