Plz help identify - Peavey Foundation Special Edition?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by RobTheRiot, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    I found this listed locally, and I’m quite interested, as it’s apparemtly been sitting a while and is priced to move.

    I’m pretty sure it’s a refinished Peavey Foundation.
    The serial number and markings on the back of the headstock look correct, and s/n dates it to 1989.

    My question tho, is between last night & today I’ve done a bunch of searches trying to determine what Peavey model had the strip of what appears to be Wenge down the Center?

    I’d guess it was originally a natural finish, because why would you cover that up? Altho if it was originally natural, why refinish it natural again?

    I haven’t been able to find anything comparable. Is this just a homemade body w/ a Peavey bridge and neck?
    Or was there actually a model like this released?
    Is it a foundation at all?

    I haven’t had it in my hands yet, so you know about as much as me.
    For the price I think it’d be worth it just to get a bass w/ the dual super ferries in my stable.

    Please let me know any info or opinions you can glean from the few photos.

    Thanks for your help!!

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  2. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    Here’s one more photo... didn’t think it was relevant at first, altho I see it does show that the body is apparently a sandwich, back half appears to be a lighter shade of wood than the front.

    Again, any help is much appreciated!

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  3. Landsharks

    Landsharks

    Jul 24, 2009
    Oxford, MS
    Looks to me someone planed the top and made a new top for the body and headstock. I redid the top of a Grind, planed off the top and built new top. 20180529_003606.jpg
     
  4. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    Thanks for your reply.

    You think they planed off enough to add the cap & the Wenge stringer down the center? I can’t see them having any solid color over the nice woods on top.
    If they added them, they would’ve had to take off a lot of wood tho, the top look like 1/2 the thickness of the body.

    (Great looking bass!)
     
  5. Landsharks

    Landsharks

    Jul 24, 2009
    Oxford, MS
    I took a good 3/8" off the top. I've never seen a Peavey with Wenge until they made the Cirrus and definitely not on any bass that had the Super Ferrite pickups. I really like the way that bass looks, how much are they asking for it?
     
  6. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    Yeah, I’ve looked at 1,000’s of pics by now, and haven’t seen 1 Peavey Bass w/ the Wenge stripe down the center.

    I wonder if you’re correct they added a new top, or maybe it’s not a Peavey body at all?
    (I sent a message asking to see the back - or if they can’t send a pic, if the neck plate has a small hole for the microtilt feature. That might be telling, but then again they could’ve just installed that on a new body. We’ll see!)

    Apparently they had it marked for $400, but it’s been sitting so long they’re asking 100$. (With that knowledge I might even offer a little lower knowing the trouble they’re having getting rid of it.)

    It’s too bad it doesn’t have the “P” knobs, but if it plays & sounds sweet, it’s a good price.

    I’d just like to figure out WHAT exactly IT IS before deciding!

    Thanks, and anyone else who can tell anything from the pics please chime in!
    (I’d rather not let it sit for too long!)
     
  7. mech

    mech In Memoriam

    Jun 20, 2008
    Meridian, MS, USA
    @RobTheRiot ....agree with @Landsharks .....not factory but the body was planned and capped and the peghead veneered. Looks like excellent workmanship, too, and would probably cost in the $300/400 range to have done. At that price I'd be all over it. With the Foundation neck and SFs it should play and sound like one.
     
  8. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    I cant offer anything definitive, but can tell you from experience you find a lot of of one offs and unusual variations in Peaveys of that era.Wood, hardware, finish, all over the place.
     
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  9. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    @mech Wow, I agree, if that was planed & capped they did do a heck of a job.

    I have to ask, if you’re removing that much wood & replacing it, at what point does it become easier and more cost efficient to just put the neck on an entirely new body? I only ask because that’s a process I’m not really familiar with.

    @Copperhead That’d be interesting... you’ve seen one off’s from Peavey Basses from the 80’s that used woods & styles not on the market at the time? Do you know if they were custom orders, or maybe display or prototypes for display at NAMM or other shows?

    *Thanks all for your replies. Hopefully I’ll hear from the seller soon & maybe he’ll have more answers. Just hoping to go into possible transaction w/ as much knowledge as possible.
    Thanks!
     
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  10. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    Rob it would probably be more accurate to say unusual rather than one off, though they may well have been that. Did Peavey do custom ? Anyway I went through a Peavey USA phase and leaned toward the unusual.
    I had a Foundation Super Ferrite which was solid mahogany, which is quite rare. I had one with a light blue body, also quite rare. A few others I can't quite remember at the moment.

    It's also a perfectly viable idea that someone with a shop and planer decided he wanted a Peavey hippie sandwich too. They are good basses,and interesting and fun to see the variations.

    @kodiakblair and @bassmanrocke were Peavey encyclos if they are still around.

    I had two different Foundation S models, which had quite different neck profiles. T-models that are not the usual burst, black, natural or red show up sometimes too.
     
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  11. mech

    mech In Memoriam

    Jun 20, 2008
    Meridian, MS, USA
    Much easier to cap a body rather than build one from scratch if the cap is thinner than the depth of the neck and pickup pockets. What's left of the pockets can be used as guides for special router bits and no measurements or templates are needed to route them in the cap. Same for the control pocket from the back. Locating the bridge is all that requires some skill. Building a scratch body requires accurate calculation and measurement of where the parts go and those measurements translated into lines/marks on the blank
     
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  12. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    Thanks for your reply!

    Not really a technique i was familiar with, altho I know that’s what @Landsharks did with his bass he pictured earlier in the thread.

    Makes sense - why build a new body when you have one that you already like the shape & feel of, and that has all the measurements and major cuts already made.

    That’s why I love this sight; learn something new everyday.

    (Still waiting on reply from the seller...
    I’ll let you all know when I hear something.)
     
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  13. Maybe having no apparent headstock logo has been keeping buyers away. Pretty hard to go wrong for that price.
     
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  14. You can't go too far wrong for a C note.
    You'd spend more for the pups and hardware.
     
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  15. For $100 !! Buy it :thumbsup:

    First job would be sort those saddles out,no way that plays in tune ATM :laugh:

    I'm also of the opinion it's a capped body and not work from the Peavey shop. Reason I don't think it's Peavey's work is the centre stripe,it doesn't really work from a visual POV. The grain on the 2 caps is really good and would've made a nice bookmatch top. Folks in the Peavey shop were on the ball when it came to visuals.

    I've a feeling Peavey would have added thinner maple and wenge stringers to give a neck through appearance.
     
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  16. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
    I'm in the process of doing something similar to a Tobias (Epiphone) Toby!

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  17. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    Well I finally had a chance to go look at the bass.

    First impression: I was pleasantly surprised by how light it was.
    It did have the Peavey microtilt neck-plate, Played nicely, and it was a nice job of the woodwork (I was talking to salesman and he wouldn’t believe me that the front and back were different pieces of wood because he couldn’t feel a seam).

    The front looks nice, altho the back left a bit to be desired; almost looked unfinished. Just a boring, light colored piece of wood with some wear on it... kind of surprising since such apparent care went into the front & headstock.

    Unfortunately traffic was worse than expected so I didn’t have time to plug it in before I had to leave to get to gig on time. So, I’m gonna think on it, try to get down there in a day or 2, and see how the electronics are & go from there...
     
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  18. Copperhead

    Copperhead Still creakin' around. Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    Tennessee
    Pretty typically poplar. I did get the bright idea to strip one once. It had a thin veneer on top, kind of puzzling in that it was a painted finish. The veneer itself was nothing special.
     
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  19. ANCIENTSOCIETY

    ANCIENTSOCIETY

    May 18, 2016
    Las Vegas
    I bought this bass today. I was able to get it for $100 even no tax, which wasn't bad for me. The number on the body and neck do not match, but they both look like peavey's to me. (never had one before)

    The body says 9250, while the neck says 9241. Not sure if they even are supposed to match tho. Sounded good when plugged in no scratching or anything, electronics were clean enough to leave as is. Scratch on the back was disappointing but at least there's no paint on this thing. Neck is straight. Truss rod cover has never been removed, but I can't tell if it turns because I don't have the acorn nut wrench. (thought it would be like a fender).

    It feels like the bridge and neck screws were overtightened, but maybe they had never been removed before as well.

    This thing has probably been dropped because there are some deep dents in the frets in places where the strings wouldn't touch, but there is unreasonable wear on the frets in general. good thing they are jumbo cuz it's all saveable. gonna try and level and crown them the best i can, and may even put some silver solder in the deep dents if that doesn't work.
    Oh yeah and the saddles were rough.

    Pics from my iphone so they might suck.
     

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  20. This should be fun.