Pneumatic Drum sanders

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by tjclem, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
  2. Rodent

    Rodent A Killer Pickup Lineā„¢ Commercial User

    Dec 20, 2004
    Upper Left Corner (Seattle)
    Player-Builder-Founder: Honey Badger Pickups & Regenerate Guitar Works
  3. I prefer to guide the wood through the tool whenever possible. I got this one. One of the best spent $200 ever. It includes a smaller diam pneumatic drum that you can replace the flap sander with.

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  4. JSPguitars

    JSPguitars

    Jan 12, 2004
    Grass Valley
    Hmmm, these look nice.
    Christmas present? :smug:
    Do you use the flap sanding attachment? If so, for what operations is it handy with?
    I wonder if i can modify my dad's benchtop grinder like this?
     
  5. I used it once for removing router marks from a body. It worked well.
     
  6. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    I have 2 grinders I am not using I wish I could convert them but I am not sure how to tell if I could..t
     
  7. JSPguitars

    JSPguitars

    Jan 12, 2004
    Grass Valley
    Same here! Maybe if we link up our noggin's, we can come up with something :smug:
     
  8. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    If the grinder has an internal motor (as opposed to separate motor and arbor) I'd think that the speed might not be right for sanding... I could be wrong, of course, but I think my grinder runs much faster than my drill (in which I use small sanding drums) or my oscilating spindle sander...
     
  9. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    Wilser - does that drum have any "give" to it, say, enough that if you pressed the wood into it, it would contour a bit to the radius you want for the back of your neck? Or is it fairly solid once inflated?
     
  10. The drums are pneumatic and you can inflate them to the desired stiff ness (or lack of it!).

    As for using a grinder, I doubt it would perform because of the bearings,motor power, motor shaft. Just check out other similar machines and also buffers and you'll see they always have big motors with long ,big diam shafts.
     
  11. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    when you use the drum on your necks to profile them, do you inflate until they are stiff, or do you leave sime "cushion" in them?

    If you don't inflate them all the way, do you experience issues of the sanding sleeve slipping?
     
  12. I inflate them to about 7psi, so it has some give. The point of this tool is to remove the flat sanding marks left by the belt sander. I have not experienced any slipping, yet.
     
  13. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    So you are using the belt sander to do most of the actual profiling, and then using the pneumatic drum to clean it up?
     
  14. yes. I do take a 45 deg cut on the neck with the bandsaw to remove the bulk before going to the sanders. Even after the pneumatic there's a little bit that can has to be done by hand and/or with the RO sander, but it's much faster now and way less hard on my shoulders ;) I carved 4 necks in just under 2 hours on the last batch.
     
  15. SDB Guitars

    SDB Guitars Commercial User

    Jul 2, 2007
    Coeur d'Alene, ID
    Shawn Ball - Owner, SDB Guitars
    I'm gonna have to try that out... my current methor is to rough profile on the bandsaw to within 1/8" or so, attack with microplane (I am using a 2" Microplane drum chucked into my 1/2" drill), then RO sander, and sandpaper in hand (320 grit and higner, up through Micromesh). Takes well over an hour to do a neck, and is reasonably physical
     
  16. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
  17. that's just the drum, not the machine!
     
  18. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    I don't see a place to order the whole thing or where to get replacement tubes for it or the hand held unit......t
     
  19. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    Alright Wilser I am going for it. :hyper:Did you get the silicone of the aluminum oxide:confused:
     
  20. I got the aluminum oxide sleeves.

    by the way, I think the smaller machine that shows up on the amazon pic has been discontinued for a while since it doesn't show up on the grizzly catalog even as far back as the 2006 one.