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Pops sucks...Help

Discussion in 'Bows and Rosin [DB]' started by tww001, Aug 14, 2003.


  1. tww001

    tww001

    Aug 13, 2003
    Telford, PA
    I can't stand the Pops rosin I have...but the music store I go to doesn't supply anything else...suggestions for what else I should try and where I could get it (online?!?)
     
  2. Christopher

    Christopher

    Apr 28, 2000
    New York, NY
  3. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Victoria, TX
    If any of your section mates use something else, see if you can sample a little before you buy. That's what I'd do in hindsight.
     
  4. I run the nymans in the summer and the carlson in the winter. The carlson is a bit softer and stickier. You can get either from lemur music, they have decent prices and quick delivery. Also, try keeping your Pops in the fridge, might work a little better.
     
  5. sdjbass

    sdjbass

    Mar 11, 2003
    Greensboro, NC
    I agree. Pops has gotten really bad as of late. Me and my Private Teacher were comparing war stories of how Pops has glooped up our bows beyond playablity. I am currently using the Kolesteins All Weather and loving it. Just stop using pops and get your bow rehaired and your tone problems will be over
     
  6. Dondi

    Dondi

    May 3, 2003
    NYC
    I don't get it. Switching to Pops solved my rosin problems! Mayby its the different climates, but lots of my colleages use Pops here in New York. I'm thinking that maybe its not as appropriate for warmer climates.
    Also, if you are getting glopping kinds of problems it usually means that you are using your rosin excessively to make up for poor bowing technique. If you don't learn to dig in with your forearm, you will be doomed to using tons of rosin so you get some kind of sound, have a real gloppy situation on your bow, and be forced to rehair much too often. A good teacher should know that. YOU play the strings, not your rosin!
     


  7. Dig in with your whole arm!
     
  8. vitoliuzzi

    vitoliuzzi

    Dec 7, 2003
    South Italy
    Dear List,
    I'm a newbie in this Forum. Very beautiful. Only to tell you that Carlsonn and Nymans are the same rosin.
    Regards
    Vito
     
  9. tww001

    tww001

    Aug 13, 2003
    Telford, PA
    after consulting my bass teacher, I've come to realize that pops is quite good acctually. I know this is an old post, but oh well. My bowing was what sucked, not the rosin I was using. I had the hairs too tight and was tensing my arm too much, as well as trying to use too much rosin to compensate for my ignorance.
     
  10. lermgalieu

    lermgalieu Supporting Member

    Apr 27, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    Yeah my teacher just recently pointed out I had my hairs WAY too tight - I don't know why I did that. I knew the tension that was roughly advised, but for some reason I thought my bow didn't sound good unless I really cranked it. Well i was wrong, because when I loosened it up I needed less rosin and less effort. I wish we'd discovered it sooner, but my lessons are mostly spent discussing transcriptions and theory lately, so he never noticed.
     
  11. Another vote for Kolstein's All-Weather (in case anyone's keeping track).
     
  12. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Victoria, TX
    The bow rules. As far as hair being too tight or loose, my teacher's advice was not to let the hair touch the stick when I play and have it tight enough to let the bow bounce when I want to make that happen.

    As an adult beginner, I always want to hear answers that leave no room for interpretation (read: error). Now I'm beginning to understand that's simply the way it must be and I must grow with my own experience. I'm not sure I'm good enough to turn the screw so that the hair tension remains exactly the same every time I pull the bow out to play, but luckily it doesn't really matter much over time.

    Pops rules too. Goes on my bow easy and quickly and gets me to the bass faster.
     
  13. With that i find that i need to vary the bow tension for different applications..for example.....I keep the bow slightly on the loose side because i findthat it gives me a softer tone , however the same bow tension will be a problem on rough loud heavey peaces , so then i tighten the bow as needed...this i find is the best way to do things....(right tool for the job)