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Possible to use an iPad as your preamp/DI on a gig?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Jarrett, Jan 18, 2012.


  1. Jarrett

    Jarrett

    Jan 19, 2004
    Waxahachie, Tx
    Are there any apps out now that can do this? Anyone gigging with an iPad like that?
     
  2. GrowlerBox

    GrowlerBox

    Feb 10, 2010
    Nude Zealand
    Most of these products have only headphone outs (or have no outputs at all), and I would be sceptical of their ability to drive a power amplifier.

    The Alesis iO dock looks promising, although the provided specs are a little thin, especially with respect to output voltage. This seems to be the first pretty full-featured audio interface for the iPad, and I would guess there are more coming.
     
  3. amos

    amos

    Oct 23, 2003
    SE Portland Oregon
    I'm sure it's possible now, and in 2012 there will be a whole other slew of apps that will help for music production and performance, but in a live situation, do you really want your tone to be dependent on an ipad? I wouldn't. Running iLemur app is one thing, using it as a preamp/DI is a whole other kettle of fish IMO.
     
  4. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I don't even trust full sized computers on gigs. You think I'd trust one with reduced capability? No thank you.
     
  5. Jarrett

    Jarrett

    Jan 19, 2004
    Waxahachie, Tx
    What if it said Ampeg on it?
     
  6. DBCrocky

    DBCrocky

    Oct 18, 2011
    Cary, NC
    Agreed
     
  7. Slightly OT, but we did a gig last year with a dep rhythm guitarist. He didn't want to do a rhythm guitar part in Jump so he learnt the entire synth part on his iPad and did that instead. (We are a two guitar band normally). Basically, he totally stole the show and it was amazing.

    But, as a bass preamp? Nah, latency would concern me as well as sub-optimal A/D and D/A conversion adding noise
     
  8. bassman314

    bassman314 I seem to be a verb, an evolutionary process...

    Mar 13, 2005
    Bay Area, CA
    This.
     
  9. oinkbanana

    oinkbanana

    Oct 20, 2011
    They're soon releasing a pedal to connect to your iphone, to use the iphones built in amp simulators & effects....
    dawn of a new era!

    keep your eyes peeled for the iRig Stomp. then into a DI and you're set!

    & tehre's also the Digitech iStomp, but i'm not sure if your phone stays connected, or if you just upload presets from your phone.
     
  10. JimWasHere

    JimWasHere

    Sep 8, 2010
    Portland, OR
    Bwahahaha!

    That said, there's a lot of companies, especially ballet type shows, that are touring with an ipod-equipped stage manager of some sort. Not iphone or ipad, but ipod.
     
  11. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Ha ha. Believe it or not, there are a couple of products Ampeg makes that I don't care for. The rest is stellar, IMHO, but even Ampeg can turn out a product occasionally that doesn't hit my buttons.
     
  12. gumtown

    gumtown

    May 7, 2007
    New Zealand
    +1
    I second that, speaking from 1st hand experiance back in the 90's, no fun waiting for a PC to reboot during a song at a gig.
    Next thing the damn machines will end up becoming self aware and take over your gig.
    I only trust boxes with 1/4" or XLRs and you canstand on it without it breaking.
     
  13. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    It sounds great - give one a try.
    There are Millions of iPads, iPods, iPhones in existence and they do not have reliability issues. Apple is one of the most trusted product brands.
    Latency is not an issue
    You will be seeing more and more iPads on stage.
    Androids too - eventually

    Give it a try - it doesn't cost anything to try. Go find an Apple store.

    They will be all over NAMM 2012

    Even FOH mixers are sliding in iPads
     
  14. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    90's right - have you heard of Moore's law? Do you realize things Nave progressed since the 90's?

    Keyboards and Tube amps take longer to start up. These things boot in seconds, but you don't have to boot. Just don't turn it off.
    Who turns off their iPhone?

    Any computer can boot in seconds if you add an SSD
    Or they can run days on sleep + battery. Things no longer freeze up like the 90's.

    Oh - guess what they're doing to you. They are embedding "computers" into gear. Even bass heads. You don't know it if all you see is XLR's and 1/4". Be sure to look under the hood. You can't buy a TV or Car without an embedded CPU in it.

    ooops I think I fell for your ploy :)
     
  15. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    Don't buy an iPad right now.
    iPad 3 are rumored to be shipping in March

    They will be even better at similar prices. Reference Moore's Law
     
  16. GrowlerBox

    GrowlerBox

    Feb 10, 2010
    Nude Zealand
    For me, the issue isn't so much the iPad as the interface. Right now, I wouldn't trust the Alesis not to crap out, I gather the mic pres are not what they could be, and it's probably not really built for stage use. iRigs and the current Apogee offerings are even less so, and there is no robust way to get a good signal into a power amp from these units at this time. All that said, if Apogee came out with something like the iO dock I would give it a close look.
     
  17. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I will say that it gets increasingly difficult to tell the difference between digital on a good computer and analog. The handheld stuff ain't it, though. Now something like the AxeFx and maybe we can talk. Can't bring every amp in the world to every gig unless you're The Edge, and the AxeFx is pretty serious business with enough processing power to sound up there with analog. But I'm still going to bring analog and tube amps to my gigs regardless of how good it gets. How many sounds do you need?
     
  18. bassman314

    bassman314 I seem to be a verb, an evolutionary process...

    Mar 13, 2005
    Bay Area, CA
    Latency is still an issue, even now. An iPad might boot in seconds, but it still might take 3 tenths of a second to process your signal. That puts you 3 tenths of a second behind the game.

    I do video conferencing on a regular basis between 3 locations. We have high-end, brand-new state of the art equipment. When you are having a conversation, a delay between you and other participant is merely an annoyance. I wouldn't try to do a rehearsal or recording session using the technology, as we will never get together.
     
  19. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Supporting Member

    That is a modest understatement. Putting an iPad into the signal path is begging for trouble - batteries, lag, dropouts, latency, other audio getting triggered...the list goes on.

    No thanks.
     

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