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Preamp, and where to place it in the chain

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by iSteen, Jan 5, 2018.


  1. iSteen

    iSteen

    Mar 29, 2012
    Denmark
    I have a board with a Polytuner-> Vintage Microtubes -> Bass Muff Nano.
    I think the Microtubes gives me too much of harsh mids, so I am thinking of putting a preamp on the board. A preamp that could give me a warm tone, with a mild and warm drive (looking at the Boss BB-1X and the Xotic Bass BB or possibly the BBDI). What would you recommend, and where on the board would you place it?
     
  2. Stumbo

    Stumbo Wherever you go, there you are. Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 11, 2008
    the Cali Intergalctic Mind Space
    Song Surgeon slow downer software- full 4 hour demo
    Vintage Microtubes – Darkglass Electronics
    "The Microtubes Vintage is our tribute to some of the most legendary sounds in rock history. It provides warm tube-like tones with a natural dynamic response that echoes the organic compression of old tube amps and reel-to-reel tape machines."

    Try taking it out and see what you get. Maybe it's not the right pedal for your setup?

    What's in your rig?

    What type of bass do you use?

    Type of music?

    Does the amp have an effects loop?
     
  3. iSteen

    iSteen

    Mar 29, 2012
    Denmark

    I will try and take the Darkglass off the board.
    My main rig is a EBS Classic 500 head into a EBS 4x10” cab.
    I use a Fender Jazz as well as a Sandberg P.
    Music type is mostly 70’s rock/pop
    Never used the send/return since my tuner is on my pedal board
     
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  4. Josh Kneisel

    Josh Kneisel

    Jun 17, 2016
    Arizona
    I run my pre last in the chain and into the effects return of my head at line level. I use the BDDI
     
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  5. cataract

    cataract Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2007
    Richmond, VA
    Depends on how many preamps you have! Generally I'd run the one you want to be your overall always on tone shaper last and let it soak up / optionally DI out whatever effects you're feeding into it.
     
  6. ThudThudThud

    ThudThudThud

    Jun 4, 2010
    I always run them last on my board, pre....amp...
     
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  7. Stumbo

    Stumbo Wherever you go, there you are. Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 11, 2008
    the Cali Intergalctic Mind Space
    Song Surgeon slow downer software- full 4 hour demo
  8. iSteen

    iSteen

    Mar 29, 2012
    Denmark
    I am looking for a warm vintage tone with a mild drive.
    The Classic 410 cabinet is giving me a pretty "boomy" tone - especially when I turn up the drive knob.
    That was why I tried to replace the drive with a Vintage Microtubes pedal. I guess that pedal is not for me, as it don't give me the tone I am looking for. Maybe putting the cab on a box, to lift it a bit off the floor - or using an EQ on the board will help eliminate the "boominess".
    I actually play second EBS rig with another band (Reidmar head with two Classic 112's), and that setup sounds like heaven.
     
  9. Mosfed

    Mosfed

    Apr 21, 2013
    Chamonix Mont-Blanc
    Partner - CCP Pedals
    Drop the Darkglass and get a Broughton Azure Drive. Or a Broughton Terraformer. Or a Valvecaster...

    I like my preamps last but I think your issue is a different one
     
  10. Stumbo

    Stumbo Wherever you go, there you are. Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 11, 2008
    the Cali Intergalctic Mind Space
    Song Surgeon slow downer software- full 4 hour demo
    Getting the cab closer to ear level will help you hear the mids. Tilting it back would help too.

    A vertical 2x2x10 stack might do it for you.

    Adding an HPF will help clean up the noise and rumble of any rig.
    It also helps adjusting your rig to different venues.
     

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