Preamp/DI Recommendation for Ampeg Lovers

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Pocket Dave, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. Pocket Dave

    Pocket Dave

    Aug 5, 2022
    Dallas, Tx
    First off, I've not played through an actual SVT, though have played a 60's flip top and a couple modern SS Ampegs. I've also played guitar with bassists using SVT's.

    Ampegs work for me as far as the tone/feel-in-my-head goes; So I guess I'm more or less an Ampeg guy.

    Last night I played at a jam through a house-provided Hartke 115 combo that had no gain, not even a little natural compression and didn't have much tightness or definition, no matter how I set the EQ. Not to slam Hartke, but it was just not my thing.

    Thing is, there's a possible bass gig coming up at that venue, I don't want to drag my rig up its long flight of stairs and I'd love to find a preamp solution to use with their house rig.

    1. Anyone have any luck using a preamp to help a particular amp (Hartke HD115) whose voice they don't see eye-to-eye with change its spots?
    2. What's the best sounding/feeling Ampeg-growl type preamp out nowadays?
      • I read where quite a few aren't too thrilled with Ampeg's SCR-DI "Scrambler" overdrive.
  2. Smurf-o-Deth

    Smurf-o-Deth Nothing to fret over. Supporting Member

    Oct 2, 2007
    The state of denial.
    To answer number two, have a look at the Origin Effects Bassrig Super Vintage.
  3. Dave W

    Dave W

    Mar 1, 2007
    Westchester, NY
    Yep, I came to suggest the same thing. Origin SV.
    I play an SVT regularly and it’s the only SVT-in-a-box that I’ve found that actually sounds like an SVT.
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  4. Don41_2

    Don41_2 Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2012
    Ampeg classic pre-amp pedal + radial JDI

    I went this route to get the best DI south of a reddi. Fits nicely on the T-Bone mini (shown in the pic). The DI in the SCR-DI didn't really cut it for me, but the pre-amp is very nice so I went with the classic.

    At church I use the balanced out to FOH and run the output of the classic to my Little Mark II set flat. Sounds very, very good and I get compliments on my tone from the band and folks at church.

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  5. SteveC


    Nov 12, 2004
    NE ND
    I’ve never had more compliments than when I went to a REDDI. People say it’s “Ampeg like” but all I know is it slays.
  6. Pocket Dave

    Pocket Dave

    Aug 5, 2022
    Dallas, Tx
    Thanks for all the recs. I looked at the Origin BassRig Super Vintage and it's definitely got that SVT OD happening.

    The kind of grind that the Ampeg SCR-DI has, if I ignore the Scrambler OD, sounds closer to my PF500 with the gain at about 50%, which is still most definitely enjoyable Ampeg DNA in my book. For the soul, blues, blues/rock and lighter rock (think Van Morrison, Tom Petty) that I've been gigging, it sounds like either would work well.

    Even the Ampeg Classic preamp could work, though I'd prefer the XLR out, ground lift and headphone out of either the Origin Super Vintage or Ampeg SCR-DI.
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  7. Rogulus


    Sep 26, 2018
    The Tech 21 VT Bass DI covers SVT and fliptop flavours quite nicely and has a usable cab Sim built in, I have one on my board. I own a SVT and and a reissue b15 and for the price and size it doesn't disappoint.

    Id love to try out the OriginFX SV at some point too.
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  8. Pocket Dave

    Pocket Dave

    Aug 5, 2022
    Dallas, Tx
    I listened to some demos - nice.
  9. DanAdams


    Nov 3, 2013
    OMG! $500 for a pedal...
    That pedal better at least buy me a beer and help load equipment after the gig.
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  10. _Some Dude

    _Some Dude

    Sep 14, 2016
    In my old band the drummer kept a Hartke in his basement. I would run a VTDI into the amp’s effects return. Got the job done.
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  11. I bought a VT Bass v1 pedal back when it first came out. I used that for a while and then I upgraded to a VT deluxe. I sold that and then after about 6 months I missed it so I got a VTDI, which I still use regularly. Even when I have an SVT to plug into I use the VTDI because it adds some extra life to the signal. However, I've never felt that it can replicate an Ampeg. (I know, blasphemy!) I much prefer the Ampeg SCR-DI for getting closer to the Ampeg sound, particularly a more B15 type of sound. The VTDI, IMO, is good for that slightly distorted sound. But I don't think it replicates an SVT. I would love to try the Origin effects bass rig pedal but at $500? That's too high for me.
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  12. Ever since my previous post and watching this video, gas is building.....
    Still can't justify the cost but this is tb, so.....
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  13. 2saddleslab

    2saddleslab Supporting Member

    May 30, 2003
    It's redundant but an Ampeg SCR-DI & a Scrambler pedal. The SCR-DI is an easy to dial in pre and the Scrambler pedal has the necessary adjustments making it a viable OD.
  14. ahadl2500

    ahadl2500 Supporting Member

    Nov 28, 2003
    Greenwood, IN
    For SVT tone… Broughton SV-Pre

    For Fliptop it’s a tie between Sushi Box Slampegg and Broughton Fliptop for me. I like the tube breakup on the Slampegg, but the cab sim on the Fliptop gives me the tone I expect when I think Fliptop.

    Sushi Box is readily available during the monthly order windows. SV-Pre has been getting restocked recently on the Broughton webpage and should be in stock again soon. Broughton Fliptop pops up in the classifieds but tends to sell quick when it does.

    I have not tried one, but I have read good reviews on the Master Effects Super 300 for SVT tones.
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  15. Captain Ray

    Captain Ray

    Mar 20, 2021
    I'm using the Origin Effects SV DI to FOH for gigs with no amp on stage. With the band coming through IEM, the SV feels and sounds really close to my real SVT amps and cabs. I also own the ME Super 300, and if your goal is to use it with an amp, that's what I would try. It does a great job of making any amp I plug into ampeg like. I've tried the Broughton offerings, own a fliptop, and like them all but prefer the Super 300 and Fliptop ahead of an amp. If you might end up with IEM at some point, go with the Origin Effects, it truly nails that sound in ears, but not my favorite into an amp.
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  16. Pocket Dave

    Pocket Dave

    Aug 5, 2022
    Dallas, Tx
    Yep, the SCR-DI preamp is definitely where it's at for me, though I tried the scrambler with one recently and found it worked ok at low gain settings, though I don't see using it a lot. The preamp section felt very much like home.

    Think I'll probably go with the SCR-DI after all this. The price range is right, it's got a DI XLR out rather than balanced 1/4" of some of the other choices so I don't have to keep track of another kind of cable, and it's the only one that also includes a practice amp with aux-in and a headphone jack. Plus I like its battery-power option for portability in some situations.
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  17. +1 on the SV-P, got mine 3 years ago and very happy with its SVT-ness. Got the Fliptop later when it came out, also a very handy pedal for different things than the SVP.

    I seriously considered the SCR-DI earlier when just getting into the preamp game, when it was $200 before it mysteriously went to $250 overnight for the exact same thing well before Covid. I liked the sound ok and I wanted it as a sometimes-on tone option, but the coloration of my straight signal was a deal-killer.

    My SushiBox Slampegg also has a key place on my board.
  18. I have both the Ampeg SCR-DI and the smaller Ampeg Classic pedal. The SCR-DI is a bit too bulky to carry so I keep the classic on my pedalboard. When I use my Rickenbacker, I use the Ric O sound jack with a stereo cable into the splitter box. My front pickup gets the Ampeg classic pedal and my rear pickup gets the Sansamp VTDI. As many of you know, the front pickup of a Rickenbacker doesn't have as much output as the rear and the Ampeg classic pedal was distorted when I turn up the volume fully. I want a clean bass sound from the front pickup so I've recently added a spark mini booster pedal and that really helps.
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  19. Where are you in Japan? I left NY for Japan, which became my long time home, and hopefully, will be my next home.
  20. PM sent.