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Precision Bass purist?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Mo cowbell, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. Mo cowbell

    Mo cowbell

    Mar 2, 2017
    A "Kleenex" is a facial tissue where I'm from.

    When it comes to a Precison Bass, I think Fender. Not whatever has a body of the same dimensions as a Fender Precison....

    Now, that said, allow me to take the discussion further......and this perhaps places the discussion closer to the heart of my quandary.....

    I've seen "Precisions" that came equipped with a typical P pickup AND a Jazz pickup. While I understand how this may make the instrument more versatile and whatnot, should I have a hang up about this not being a true P bass?
  2. Snaxster


    Nov 29, 2008
    Only if that's how you would like to spend your life.
  3. Mo cowbell

    Mo cowbell

    Mar 2, 2017
    I may regret posting this question if this is the first response I get. Perhaps someone else will get my meaning,
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  4. Herrick


    Jul 21, 2010
    Munchkin Land
    It's one of those questions that only you can answer. I don't consider PJ basses to be "tr00" Precision Basses but that's just me.
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  5. smeet

    smeet Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 27, 2006
    Woodland Hills, CA
    Only a 35" 5-string PJ is a true Precision to me. But then again, I am a purist.
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  6. DigitalMan

    DigitalMan Owner of seven basses - eligible for 44 TB Clubs Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2011
    I think true is a word that is an overreach. Fender owns the right to make that decision.

    I think considering your ideal of a Precision bass to be a traditional, classic, standard, regular, or whatever you want to call it is an apt description so long as it allows for the superset of all Precision basses to exist without calling into question the authenticity of non-traditional Precisions.
  7. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
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  8. PeterH


    Dec 31, 2015
    Well, I have the Tony Franklin Sig, which while fretless, I'd say get's closer to pure than your average PJ because the toggle switch solos the P pup rather than muting the J pup like with a balance pot/VVT style. Maybe?

    No matter the case a PJ is at its soul a P. Hence the Elite series are still P basses.
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  9. Dluxe


    Jan 9, 2011
    Austin, TX
    Up until the 1980 introduction of the Precision Special it was just the Precision Bass. I modified my '77 with a Jazz pickup and I felt that it ruined the bass. Part of the problem was the tech located the pickup too close to the bridge. My fault for not knowing that he was a Coke head.

    I own 4 Precision basses. 1973 Fretless, 1973 Fretted, 1983 Squier JV and a 1992 MIJ '62 reissue. They all have only the Precision Bass pickup in them.
  10. inanimate_carb


    Aug 11, 2016
    Whether or not a "true" P-Bass is equipped with a J pickup is laughably inconsequential and will not improve, expand, or refine your musical ability in any way.

    This is an absolutely perfect TalkBass topic!
  11. Is it a true Precision bass? Interesting. I suppose, in my thoughts, that it is if you turn the J pup off. Other than that, it is a PJ Bass. I have a Jazz Bass with a Jazz pup in the bridge position and a P bass pup. I am now totally bumfuzzeled trying to figure out if its a Jazz or a Pbass, even though it has a Jazz body and neck, and a P pup.

    I have decided to enjoy it whatever it is.....
  12. lowplaces

    lowplaces Got Punch ? Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2015
    Louisville Kentucky
    Does it have to have Fullerplast to be a true precision bass ?

    (Showing myself the door):laugh:
  13. monsterthompson

    monsterthompson The Eighth Note Wonder Of The World Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2008
    My first thought on reading the OP was...
  14. scuzzy


    Feb 15, 2006
    Troy, MO
    You answer it in your original post. You only think fender when you think precision. So anything that is a "fender precision" is a true precision for you. Sadly, fender isn't as precise on their "precisions" as what you muster in your mind.

    Examples.... Precision special, older precision American deluxe with dual coil, newer precision American deluxe with jazz, precision elite 2 with precision in the bridge spot....I'm sure they have more, those are just the only genuine "fender precisions" that come to mind.
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2017
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  15. petrus61

    petrus61 Supporting Member

    Best damn PJ ever made IMO, but I guess it really does boil down to the isolated switching that other PJ's typically don't use.
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  16. MobileHolmes

    MobileHolmes I used to be BassoP

    Nov 4, 2006
    Beats me. I have 2 "P" basses. One a Japanese copy from the early 80s of unknown provenance, the other a warmoth, with a J neck. It's just easier to say P.

    There are, of course, some sort of philosophical questions about what determines a bass model, particularly with Fender. My brother has a fender Power Jazz, which is essentially a modernized P body, J ish neck, and PJ pickups. Go figure
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  17. Kmonk


    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings, Nordstrand Pickups, Korg Keyboards
    A Precision with a Jazz Pickup is not a Precision. It's a P/J
  18. scuzzy


    Feb 15, 2006
    Troy, MO
    You should let fender know, they have been labeling them wrong for decades.

    I've owned straight precisions, pj's with three-way switches, and pj's with two volumes. When the precision pickup is soloed, the difference is miniscule and only serves to give birth to silly internet squabbles about pot resistance, blah, blah, blah. Solo'd, they all sound the same, given same location.
  19. BigEarl

    BigEarl Supporting Member

    Sep 29, 2003
    Austin, TX
    PJs are an abomination to the Precision Bass of Fender. If you want a Precision, you get a split humbucker. If you want a Jazz, you get two single coils. If you want confusion you get a PJ setup.

    C'mon, man, pick a side!
  20. petrus61

    petrus61 Supporting Member

    Or it really just sounds like poo to people who aren't you when there isn't isolated switching.