Pro co Rat?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by hallo, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. hallo


    May 1, 2007
    Staffs, UK
    I've got a chance to purchase one for pretty cheap. Just wondered what these are like on bass, currently using a big muff but don't like it for the lows; too smooth sounding. I was told that the bass player of Boxer Rebellion uses one : listen to the song 'watermelon'. Will it get this type of sound? If not anyone got any clips?
  2. EricF

    EricF Habitual User

    Sep 26, 2005
    Pasadena, CA
    The Rat has been discussed many times here. On it's own it sucks the bottom end out of your tone in a big way. For myself and others, it was totally unusable for bass. However, putting the Rat in a blendable loop will allow you to keep enough bottom end in your tone.
  3. I used the Turbo RAT for some time with a Boss GEB-7 - it was great for high gain effects, but even with the GEB-7 boosting the lows, I found it pretty much unapplicable in any other setting than playing Tool's H. and the 'solo' part in Vicarious. :bag:
  4. Hookus


    Oct 2, 2005
    Austin, TX
    I also use one with a GEB-7, but if you can't get lows with the GEB-7, you must be doing something wrong. The GEB-7 + RAT is my distortion of choice.
  5. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't the amount of low end that was the issue - there was plenty of that with the GEB-7. I just wasn't that big a fan of it, as all.
  6. Christian Waiau

    Christian Waiau

    Jun 16, 2005
    las vegas/maui, nevada/hawaii
    Endorsing Artist: Spector, Aguilar, Darkglass
    so youre saying... the rat pedal sucks lows... so to make up for that you run a GEB7 after it to add more lowend?
  7. I find it strange that everyone here always says the RAT kills your low end to the point of being unuseable. I find the bass cut on my RAT very minimal, nowhere near the low end cut of a Tubescreamer for example.

    For the record, mine is a Vintage Reissue model that doesn't have the LM308.
  8. Mudfuzz


    Apr 3, 2004
    Yeah I had that model as well and it isn't as bad as the other RATs, but it still cut more lows then I liked and the sound was blah.
  9. grooVWy


    Apr 9, 2005
    It seems strange for me too. I tried it with my gear and yes, it does suck some low end and compresses the signal, as all distortions, but it still sounds like bass guitar to me.
    It´s one of the most "pleasant" sounding distortions to my ear.
    Sustain is very nice with it and it gives sort of "singing" effect for the sound.
    edit: It works better with passive PUPs.
  10. Hookus


    Oct 2, 2005
    Austin, TX
    I don't think it really sucks lows per se, but I run several basses, and the filter on the RAT sounds very different through all three, so the GEB-7 lets me tweak it easily. I, too, think the RAT has a very unique and good sounding distortion. If you are just playing one bass, you should be able to dial in a good tone with just the pedal.