Problems when both guitarist and bassist each have there own tuner?

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Shild, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. Shild


    Nov 15, 2012
    My band isn't sounding very tight and sounds a bit out of tune. But each member seems to sound very good all by themselves.... I'm wondering if it's typical for each of the tuners each member has to read a little differently from each other? Two of us have those little pocket tuners that fit in your pocket and run off 2 aaa batteries (mine being a Korg CA-20). One of the guitarist has a rack tuner, don't know what brand but here is a blurry pic of his rack Recognise it? But anyway, is it likely that each of our tuners each read a little different?
  2. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    There's a really REALLY easy way to find out. Try tuning everyone to the same tuner and see if the problem goes away. If not, it's not the tuners.
  3. Blind Rat

    Blind Rat

    Apr 23, 2009
    If you all use one tuner you will soon find out.
  4. canshaker


    Dec 15, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Ashdown/ESP/Dunlop/Line 6/Normandy.
    Yes. It is VERY possible that 2 or more brands of tuners are calibrated slightly differently.
    I had to switch to a different brand, because it was the one my guitarists were using.
  5. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Check and see if one or the other is mis-calibrated.
  6. Stumbo

    Stumbo Wherever you go, there you are.

    Standard concert pitch is A=440. Usually there's a calibration button.
  7. Einherjar


    Dec 1, 2012
    Lakewood, CO
    No experience with different brands of tuners making things sound bad. However, I have had gui****s try to shred in the upper register and have that **** everything up on songs that sound good the way we normally play them. I tell them to check their intonation and they give me a weird confused look, then I explain it and it turns out at the 12th fret its an entire whole step and a half off. Not saying all guitarists are like this. But, well... There's a reason people came up with the term "gui****".
  8. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Supporting Member


    I have changed this on people for kicks and giggles, it isn't funny when they don't figure out what's wrong.

    Their intonation might be off on their instruments, but I bet somebody's tuner is out.
  9. Duckwater


    May 10, 2010
    USA, Washington
    This is a good thing to look out for. I wish my guitar players would intonate their guitars, it would solve so many problems.
  10. grenadilla


    Aug 22, 2011
    It is possible, for sure. Even if they both swear A=440. After you tune with your tuner, plug your bass in the guitar rig and see if it agrees that you are in tune. I had a pretty see-through green Fender tuner that made me tune up a little sharp to the gui****. I gave it away.
  11. Liv3rman


    Dec 28, 2012
    Why don't you all tune to each other? Take it in turns hitting open strings and listen for the same pitch.
  12. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    i had a bad tuner in college, and it was pretty annoying, we ended up tuning to the drummer's trumpet:)
  13. If possible, why not try to tune each guitar/ bass by ear? Tune the low E of one guitar/ bass with one tuner, and then tune the rest of the strings to it. Then you can tune the other guitars/ basses to sound just like the first one.

    May sound tedious, but it will help you guys hear thoroughly to find if there are any other issues other than the tuning itself. Maybe someone's guitar is not properly set up.
  14. A keyboard could be used just as well for that purpose.
  15. pgolliher


    Apr 27, 2010
    Santa Cruz, CA
    Oh, the drummer's trumpet- of course! I have the most awesome visual of this now.....
  16. FrednBass


    Feb 24, 2012
    Very possible, and yet, very easy to know if it's really happening.
  17. hdracer


    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    Give me a "A"?????

    How on earth did musicians ever play in tune before we had all these cute little gadgets?? :eyebrow:
  18. tdub0199


    Mar 4, 2010
    Atlanta, Ga.
    why not tune by ear?
  19. Maybe the people in the future will ask "how on Earth could people do math calculations in their heads before?". Maybe it so happened that people who didn't have those little gadgets solved problems in a different way... like, actually taking effort and using their brains/ ears/ whatnot.

    Just saying. I really don't know where this digital generation is going. There seems to be a simultaneous dumbing-down and higher access to knowledge for youngsters with all the techology at their disposal these days.
  20. Stumbo

    Stumbo Wherever you go, there you are.

    Hey, I resemble that remark!

    About 1975 or so, my buddy showed me one of the first commercially available calculators. It cost $100 for basic features.

    But, you still have to be smart enough to apply them!

    Lots of creative people will figure it new applications....they don't have to know the details.

    Like my old man said: Rock and Roll is a fad....then later....computers are a fad. :bassist: He finally gave up prognosticating when he reached 70. He told me: "I don't have to think anymore".....good luck with that.