Proper fuzz for filling up space?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by mothman1566, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. mothman1566


    May 13, 2008
    Hey guys. I use a Big Muff normally for distortion in my jazz fusion/metal trio. The muff works great for me when I solo. However, when I play fast riffs with the muff on (normally during the guitar solos) the notes tend to get really really muddy. When I try turning the muff off, there's just too much empty space (it sound fine when in unison with the guitar but apart from that, it doesn't sound right).

    Can anyone suggest a distortion/overdrive/fuzz that does a better job at filling space when playing riffs and such or maybe a way to remedy my muff problem?

  2. beyondthe48

    beyondthe48 Guest

    Apr 29, 2007
    overdrive might be better for playing fast, but still taking more space than a clean tone.
  3. beyondthe48

    beyondthe48 Guest

    Apr 29, 2007
    or you could switch gears and use some reverb, that works well and in a band setting you just sound bigger and not really reverbed.
  4. hyp.spec


    May 14, 2006
    Fraser, MI
    You could try out a BBE Sonic Stomp pedal and run it after the Muff.

    I just purchased one (sonic stomp) and it makes the distortion from the Muff ALOT tighter. I can actually distinguish each note I play, which is really nice given the Muff's fuzzy, fuzzy, nature.
  5. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    I like 5, 8, 10, and 12 string basses
  6. dannybuoy


    Aug 3, 2005
    Try using a pick instead of fingers, it makes a massive difference.
  7. whats that mixer thing?
    but this is only one way. i couldn't find another rolls mixer which puts everything back together into one signal. how do you do that?
    mod the same thing to turn it around or what ?

    EDIT: on zooming in i found its a different model. but i cant find that model online for sale. any help?
    and doesnt the input mixer has a stereo in? what do you do about that? i am asking so many questions because i really like the idea, and it has a lot of other applications too :D
  8. Guest043

    Guest043 Guest

    Apr 8, 2008
    modulation can make the world of a differnce..a good chorus will give you an edge, although it wont be the same as the volume boost/grit you can get from gain type things. since your complaining of muddy notes, what i'd do here is play agressively over the bridge pickup..notes stay clear and have a lot of ballsy punch..if you hit the strings the right way.

    really just about any kind of effect can help you as far as "getting more space." distortion/od/fuzz, reverb/delay, chorus/phase, a good synth perhaps? also a combonation of effects can be really powerfull, like a medium-low gain distortion into any kind of modulation - they feed off of each other. the more gain going in to your chorus/phase or whatever, will make the modulating sound more drastic. just experiment a lot..
  9. Willem


    Dec 26, 2005
    muffs cut out some of your midrange...
    there are people who can mod pedals and the muff can be modded to get rid of the midcut, maybe that could give you better definition in the band setting!?
  10. dannybuoy


    Aug 3, 2005
    You can either mod the muff for midrange, build your own BYOC Large Beaver that has a flat mids switch, or just try another fuzz pedal - I recommend the Earthbound Supercollider, it sounds like a muff with more mids and more low end. There's a thread on here with samples and a review on There's also a bass big muff out now (or very soon).

    But it's not just the lack of mids that's your problem, it's just that many fuzzes don't react well to fast fingerstyle playing and the notes get mushy. I remedy this by using my fingernails when plucking the strings or by using a pick.
  11. mothman1566


    May 13, 2008
    I'll look into modding my muff or perhaps getting a hold of a BBE Sonic Stomp. Right now, the best I can do (and the cheapest alternative:p) would be to just grow my nails and play near the bridge.

    Thanks guys! :hyper:
  12. BassJunkie730


    Feb 3, 2005