punk bass sucks.

I liked the bassplaying and sound of the bass. It didn't seem overdone at all. What really annoyed me were the guitars. They just seemed off beat or something.

 

Overplaying?? The guitarists are overplaying more than you! The bass sounds very good.. but maybe a little too loud (can't believe I just said that).

Good drummer, by the way.

 

Nice punk bass tone, Brian! Big, meaty, round, punchy as all get out. Was that your Carvin? If so, I hope the replacement LB they are making for me will get that sound, (the other one sure couldn't).

I like the guitar parts. Whomever is taking the lead breaks has a nice bag of tricks.

The roughest material I heard were the verses of "Long Existence." All the instruments scatter in different directions doing their own thing. I think that is mainly due to the fact that the drummer is just putting out a mess! There's no backbeat to drive it. He sounds like he doesn't know what to do and panics. Consequently everyone else has noting solid to anchor to.

To be honest, I think that song exemplifies what the others meant about your overplaying. The thing is, there's no solid drum pattern going for you to lock onto and push. Instead, it sounds like you're competing with the guitar for riff space.

Take it from an old punker - SIMPLIFY

As always, I respect your guts for putting your music up there for others to criticize. Any artist has to be able to take a lot of criticism and your willingness is admirable.

 

I agree with what everyone else says... I dig the bass tone.... Shame your not with them anymore, I really liked the way "Long Existence" started! But if that is how you play, you won't stay out long!


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Unfortunately, JOhn, that passes for punk these days.

the tone and playing are fine though.

 

i'm listening to long existence right now, it really kicks ass, except for the singer. it's not his accent, it's his timing and phrasing. the harmonized guitar stuff and solos are VERY 80's. not sure if i like that.

 

Crap! I'll probably have to do as planned - sell the Carvin for a loss or get some pups. But they are fine recording basses as far as noise and signal strength goes. They are just so "refined" sounding" IMO (and that of many others). My pre-CBS Precis is still a punker's dream wit SS roundwounds. Although, the Ray is probably closer to what audiences are accustomed to nowadays.

I just had a salesman offering to let me try out the POD yesterday. I didn't have time, (unless it was analog). Do you know/think it can sound analog??? Talkbasser RAM got one when it first came out and returned it for reasons I didn't quite understand, other than it wasn't "stage-friendly."

I'm glad you could see what I was saying about "Long Existance." It seems my punk instincts are understood by those who really understand the idiom. Your playing was good ---- as a solo. But punk is very "neat", in that the lines are concise and so married to that kick drum. Sustain is not a punk bass virtue, nor is fretboard knowledge. Note choices will get you much further, IME - "which" notes, rather than, "how many."

Frankly, it sounds more like Cream on a bad night. Everyone was frantically trying to end their riffs at the same time but didn't make it. That is one of the virtues heavy listening to James Brown bassists taught me - start on a dime, stop on a dime, and say something in between.

You got it - don't quit!

 

holy crap you guys sound great in that recording!!! How do you get that sound out of your bass? That is the exact tone I am searching for! how do you EQ your amp for starters? You use an Ampeg right? I want that sound

And your songs were really good. There was a really cool lick at the beginning of Deceitful Heartache. Thats too bad you got kicked out. But they werent really a punk band anyway, so feel good that you were too punk for them and you got kicked out because they wanted to become more metal! You'll find a new band thats even better than them!

Dont forget to tell me how you get that sound

 

dude, that sucks your not with them any more, cuz its damn good! ...reminds me alot of a slightly less metal version of Darkest Hour

and you do over play just a little tiny bit...Deceitful Heartache for example...when i first heard it i thought it sounded cool, but before the opening lick was over I was kinda like "oh stop that"

in any case, if i saw this record at the local shop, id definately pick it up.

 

its not that you do it all the time, its just that as soon as i heard it i started cringing...im just really not into bass solos as a rule (there are always exceptions)

 

i dunno, it might be just my comp, but all of the recordings sound like the recorder was clipping. Your bass is definitately not overplayed, but good, tone-wise and play-wise. Have you ever been to Victoria BC? I remember this one punk band where the bass player had a 5er.... Maybe it was a local band. too bad i forgot how they sounded.

 

hey falsehood guess what punk band also uses a 5 string...THE DEVIATES!there awesmome and their bassist damien is awesome too.i suggest u get "time is the distance"very cool cd indeed.hardcore punk at its greatest by the deviates.now for a review on deceitful heartache...

awesome bass in the begining!guitars are cool too.the singers voice makes it sound too soft.i think they would be better with a deeper voice such as pennywise.i like the part when they say "shock me" i think you guys could really have a chance to become big in the punk world.if u guys come near maryland tell me,im there.so overall....
good guitar,awesome drums,awesome bass,OK singer.good melodies and such

 

I like the bass tone a lot, I think it needs to be louder though, I can barely hear it. I can't believe you got kicked out, that sux hard.

Also, the rhythm guitarist is useless, but maybe that's just me cuz I just hate rhythm guitarists, all they do is follow the bass, and unless they do something else (like sing really well) I think they're just useless.

If you could, you might wanna try to get back in, it sounds to me like people would eat that album up.

OMG, just listened to deceitful heartache, I LOVE THAT LINE. All that song needs is the singing to be redone, it sounds like he's kinda talking, ya know? Make him change pitch in the voice a little more in the verse.

BTW, I think just to help ya out, I'm gonna email those guys and tell them I love the bass in the music, LOL.

Here's what's in the email I sent the mp3.com account:

"Hey guys, I just found your music on mp3.com and I love it. I'm in a punk band myself and I think you guys kick ass, especially that bassist OMG. I love the song Deceitful Heartache, that intro is the coolest thing I've ever heard. Keep making more music!!!"

Haha
Keep rockin man
- Chris

 

By the way, how do you get that tone out of your carvin?