Push me over or pull me back

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by klejst, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. klejst

    klejst Guest

    Oct 5, 2010
    Possible NCD thread here. Problem is I either need help being pushed over the hump and buy or be pulled back and stay put where I am and with what I already have.

    My current cab is a Mesa PowerHouse 2x12, great cab, served well. However recently I have been eyeballing replacing it with a Mesa Road Ready PowerHouse 4x10 cab for a decent price. Due to space and financials I could only keep one cab as I'd have to sell the 2x12 if I bought the 4x10...essentially a swap. The 4x10 obviously has more weight to it but I like that it's enclosed and protected in it's own case and also has casters. My dilemma is either going for the 4x10 or sticking with the 2x12 as both are great cab options for me.

    What opinions have you all?
  2. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    What amp are you using?

    I suggest setting your 2x12 up on a about a 2' stand and adding an adjustable HPF to your signal chain. Cut subsonic mud and stage boom, overcome poor venue acoustics, and get the mids closer to your ear. One you get this done, hear your rig FOH. I think you'll find that hits as hard or harder than a 4x10.

    Another option is to eventually pickup another 2x12 and create a vertical stack. It'll kill.:thumbsup:
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  3. basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    Northern KY
    Cab fan, hobbyist
    Are you asking bar patrons to help you stay sober?

    Lol of course buy buy buy

    It's TB.

    The 212 isn't particularly rare nor would it be hard to find if you decide the quad isn't doing it for you. Expensive lesson for sure but like you already said the RR has a couple pros over the 212 to you.
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  4. klejst

    klejst Guest

    Oct 5, 2010
    Right now I have it paired with a Acoustic B200h which I hope to replace some day sooner than later as well.

    Nah, I'd ask the bar patrons what the Happy Hour Specials are. Sure there is pros to each. Like I said though I just need that (justified) push one way or another.
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  5. Lobster11

    Lobster11 Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    If you want to move from two 12s to four 10s, get a pair of 2x10s. Since discovering the many advantages of a vertically stacked pair of 2x10s I no longer have any interest in a 4x10.
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  6. klejst

    klejst Guest

    Oct 5, 2010
    I've at least thought this as well. Having the functionality and freedom to use one 2x10 or two has some flexibility too. What I have seen though is two 2x10's as listings and prices are now would cost me a little more than most times a single 4x10. But I always have my eyes open for a deal. I did come across for sale an old Diesel 2x10 in a road case too.
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  7. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    if you keep the 212, will you be able to another head sooner?

    is the 212 loud enough for your current use?
  8. Keep the 2x12 and use your money to upgrade from that amp. Then you will forget about that cube.
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  9. klejst

    klejst Guest

    Oct 5, 2010
    Seems to be loud enough for the most part without PA/DI support. Guess I'm more so looking into a change...
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  10. CTBassGuy

    CTBassGuy Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2018
    Danbury, CT
    If you are moving the cab around a lot, then the Road Ready 4x10 makes sense, assuming you can truly come out with $0 sum. If not, I'd keep the 2x12, save the $ to get the head you want and later pick up another 2x12 if you really need it (and if so, also invest in some serious earplugs... ;) ).
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  11. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    well, there ya go - change to a new head :D
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  12. Omega Monkey

    Omega Monkey

    Mar 8, 2015
    Your amp is definitely the weak link in the chain. You'll get way more out of upgrading to a really nice head. You can get Genz Benz Shuttle 6s for basically dirt cheap. GK 700RB is another great one for fairly cheap. If you have a low level GC Acoustic head, I'm guessing you're not touring, and if you're not touring, a cab with it's own flight case is not only completely useless to you, it's actually highly detrimental. I don't know what the weight difference is between the 2 cabs, but before the subway stuff, basically all the Mesa bass cabs were obscenely heavy, and the RR ones are probably the heaviest. I'm sure it's an awesome sounding cab, but I wouldn't buy it unless I had a need for something sturdy that was going to sit in a practice space but still sound good. As it is, I have a GB 410 XB cab and it was probably hundreds of dollars cheaper than that Mesa you're looking at, and likely 10-20+ pounds lighter (and the Genz is already heavy for a 4x10, but it sounds fantastic).
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  13. Thumpin6string

    Thumpin6string Supporting Member

    Apr 25, 2013
    Shoals Indiana
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  14. Wasnex


    Dec 25, 2011

    Which one do you think sounds best? Let the anwer guide your decision.
  15. dBChad


    Aug 17, 2018
    Tavares, FL
    4x10s move a LOT of air, but they tend to beam. My instinct is to think a 2x12 (such as the GK or SWR staggered style cabs) will have a more even coverage pattern, but there are many many variables that come into play for that.

    If you carry the room a lot with your amp, I would most likely keep the 2x12 (after trying the 4x10 out to be sure). If you run into FOH and just use your amp for stage monitoring, the 4x10 could have some advantages.
  16. Keger Jupit

    Keger Jupit Inactive

    May 10, 2018
    The Great PNW!!
    I had a Powerhouse 2x12 for many, many moons. Loved that cab! If you like what it does & the way it sounds, know that a 4x10 will not reproduce that. You could try adding casters & case to it, & possibly be $$ ahead.

    ...or, use something I discovered. Folding hand truck. I won't go anywhere without it now.

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  17. quindecima

    quindecima Inactive

    Sep 18, 2016
    Walterville, Oregon
    NICE !
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  18. REV

    REV Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    Could you get another 2x12? That would kill.
  19. Omega Monkey

    Omega Monkey

    Mar 8, 2015
    He's got a a $150 200w amp. He's not using all the cab he has right now. Adding more cab is not really a solution to an actual existing problem.
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  20. Yup.

    We need him to post a New Amp Day.
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