Putting together a practice rig, pf-350 and av210?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by jeffnesham, Dec 4, 2020.


  1. jeffnesham

    jeffnesham

    Jan 19, 2014
    Hi all. This board has helped beyond measure in achieving optimum tone. I have a pretty heavy and awkward love
    Rig and am having difficulty with weekly rehearsals. Im thinking about the portaflex pf350 to pair with my av210 but I’m worried if I could damage the cab putting 250 watts in it at 8ohms.

    should I instead opt for a tc bam200?
     
  2. lokikallas

    lokikallas Supporting Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    los angeles
    It worked pretty well for me for medium sized gigs and rehearsals.
     
  3. abarson

    abarson

    Nov 6, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    Your 210 AV is rated 200 watts RMS and is a 8 ohms cabinet.
    The output on you PF350 states that it will deliver 250 watts to a 8 ohms load, 350 watts to a 4 ohms load.
    You can use the two together but you must listen for any speaker stress. The obvious solution is to get a second 210AV.
     
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  4. SJan3

    SJan3 Supporting Member

    Dec 8, 2010
    Ct.
    I would think the PF350 and 210AV to be a perfect match.
     
  5. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    I do it all the time. Just have to watch that you don't stress out the cab and you'll be fine.
     
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  6. jeffnesham

    jeffnesham

    Jan 19, 2014
    If i got a 2nd 210av would it now be underpowered? would it be better to opt for a PF-500? or would that be going to far in the other direction?
     
  7. Timmah

    Timmah Supporting Member

    May 19, 2011
    Connecticut
    You’ll be fine with a 350 and the single 210av, as long as you listen for signs of stress. Practice should be just fine.

    You might want to get a second 210av anyway, though, because I can guarantee that combination will sound so good that you’ll want to gig it.
     
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  8. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Well the PF500 wouldn't sit neatly on the top like a PF350 :D And honestly, I used to have a PF800, which is a PF500 with 300 more watts, and while I thought it was a great head that's a little better than the PF350, I've been fine with the PF350 since I set all my amps to sound about the same anyway. But yeah, if you think one 210av sounds great, you should hear it with two in a vertical stack. I generally just bring one because I never play very loud, but two definitely sounds better and projects more. And for a limited time, you can get them in red :D
     
  9. jeffnesham

    jeffnesham

    Jan 19, 2014
    Thanks everyone I think I’ll go with the 350 then and then even if I have two 210s I could still use it live if I wanted to downsize.

    Appreciate it all very much!
     
  10. lokikallas

    lokikallas Supporting Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    los angeles
    I just got another 210av to go with my Pf350. Unfortunately my pf350 has started to crap out, so I bought a used rumble500 to replace it rather than repair. It’s “too many” watts, but I’m not worried. Most importantly it will fit on top of the stack nicely lol. I don’t jack up the low end and it will be perfect for typical bar gigs someday.
     
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  11. JeezyMcNuggles

    JeezyMcNuggles Suspended Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2018
    Santa Maria, CA
    I suck, but nobody really notices
    Should be perfect. Dont worry about rms watts being a little more coming from an amp you'll have at half volume
     
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  12. 75Ric

    75Ric Supporting Member

    Feb 13, 2019
    Connecticut
    For those who understand these things better than me: would a high pass filter help the OP keep the chances of speaker damage low?
     
  13. jeffnesham

    jeffnesham

    Jan 19, 2014
    Thanks theres so much conflicting advice - keep the amp lower than your cabs, keep the samp slightly above your cabs, match them exactly etc.
     
  14. JeezyMcNuggles

    JeezyMcNuggles Suspended Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2018
    Santa Maria, CA
    I suck, but nobody really notices
    Right? Haha. I mean sure, when buying a set up, you want to match for optimum performance. But, it really doesn't matter man. Over or under powered. Just be smart about it. My church has been running a peavey 1000w bass amp into a 200w 210 for years. Still sounds great.
     
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