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Queensryche & Alice in Chains recent grit tone

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by tocs100, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @

    Sep 16, 2007
    Ogden, UT
  2. IntrepidCellist


    Sep 10, 2009
    Active bass, G-K amp, set for growl.
  3. I always thought mike from AIC was a cranked svt sorta guy
  4. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @

    Sep 16, 2007
    Ogden, UT
    Tried one. Cool, but not OMG.

    Same as above. Also, Mike Inez has a huge pedalboard. Maybe he's using a Sansamp BDDI with blended overdrive?

    You guys both have experience with Sansamp stuff, whatdya think?
  5. IntrepidCellist


    Sep 10, 2009
    That recipe up top is pretty much Mindcrime-era Queensryche.
  6. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @

    Sep 16, 2007
    Ogden, UT
    Right, but the "recent" sound of the live video was sadly absent from their classic studio sound (= blah, imo). Similar deal with AIC.

    Studio comparison clip:
    Yep, def ok-ish GK sound, a bit dated & synthy too, rather than growly, modern, and mean...
  7. ...don't forget the pick. Some EMG's might help.
  8. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @

    Sep 16, 2007
    Ogden, UT
  9. JimiLL

    JimiLL Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2009
    Hunt. Co., New Jersey
    Gonna need a heavy pick... emgs and a Sansamp should get you real close
  10. tycobb73

    tycobb73 Supporting Member

    Jul 23, 2006
    Grand Rapids MI
    I saw footage of a recent AIC concert. He was using a spector. And those more than likely had EMGs in them. EMGs have a pretty unique sound.
  11. grendle


    Mar 4, 2011
    Central FL
    Spector + ampeg svt (2, 2 pre, or 7 pro) + svt8x10. Gets that tone all day , no effects.

    He's running a distortion (bddi?) On a wick for AIC. The Spector does that naturally.
  12. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    Mike Inez plays a Warwick SS1 with a pick into a pair of SVT-II Pro's feeding a pair of Ampeg 8X10's.

    As mentioned above, he also uses Spector. His SS1 has EMG PJ's with a P reversed and an EMG preamp. The NS2 and SS1 are fairly similar construction and wood wise.

    No clue about his pedalboard.
  13. groove pump

    groove pump

    Oct 24, 2006
    My newer bass is a nice custom bolt-on 4-string that has EMG P/J pickups with a bass/treble preamp. It's not a hefty beast, but it has a mahogany body and maple/rosewood neck. It could get me a whole lot closer to that sound than my passive J-bass for sure.

    Careful with the BDDI. While it can get up toward an overdriven sound, it can also bury a lot of mids that might be not so helpful with trying to bring out that big diesel tone.
  14. daze_fourkay


    Oct 26, 2011
    Yep, sounds like EMGs, pick and Ampeg turned up with the mids high.
  15. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @

    Sep 16, 2007
    Ogden, UT
    Here's a new/working link for the AIC Sonisphere fest:

    Anyone got info on Inez's pedalboard yet?
  16. superdick2112

    superdick2112 Registered Spector Addict Supporting Member

    Nov 20, 2010
    Highlands Ranch, CO.
    As Grendle stated, Spector + overdriven Ampeg or GK = the Queensryche & AIC sound.

    I'll add that having low action & a touch of fret buzz is also important, and so is using a strong right hand picking or fingerstyle attack, and fresh nickle or steel roundwound strings.
    IMHO, the # 1 ingredient is active P/J EMG pickups & fresh strings.
  17. +1. spector pretty much solves that whole riddle of where the growl and grit are coming from :)
  18. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @

    Sep 16, 2007
    Ogden, UT
    Then how does one explain the HUGE pedalboard (see vid)?

    I have a USA Peavey Millennium with active Music Man/J-Bass pups that sound better than any EMG's I've played. Then I bought a Sansamp bddi too but it doesn't get enough gain and and the gain farts-out w/o a huge bass cut first.
    So I'm running two paths made easy with a Boss LS-2:
    1) EHX steel leather into Zoom Sansamp sim with tons of processing
    2) Tech 21 Blonde into Behringer blendable bass o.d. (Boss ODB-3 clone)
    That's 3 levels of freq-dependent grind and it kills. No single ch. of gain is gonna get that sound. :bassist:
  19. Caca de Kick

    Caca de Kick Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    Spector NS2/NS4 is the sound, they have that awesome grind tone. Amp is really unimportant.
  20. gene beauchamp

    gene beauchamp Supporting Member

    Jul 15, 2012
    Agreed. Spector is the key ingredient. Pick not necessary.