Question bout the T-Bird

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by lobster_boy, Oct 2, 2001.

  1. I jus found out my bass sounds like crap when ever i use a pick, mostly because its got extra low action and lots of relief which i like for slappin and bendin. So i'm lookin into some basses i could used a pick well and since i really really hate the p-bass's i was looking into the epiphone t-bird. i was wonderin are the string spacin suitable for slappin and if it would sound any good if i slapped and picked, i've never seen any1 slap w/ one. i was jus askin u guys fist before drivin 40 miles to Mars.(my GC doesn't carry them) i'd really like to know
  2. Why the thumbs down?

    I don't know about the Epi Bird but a Gibson Thunderbird slaps nice. I think either way on any bass if you make the action realy low the pick playing is going to give you lots of fret noise.
  3. Epiphone is always going to be a piece of **** because their all ripoffs of Gibson, the Gibson T-bird is suprisingly fat and round in tone I like it but I don't know about a pick (I never use one) but the Fender P/J and J bass (not Squire) are suposed to pick well plus you can get replacement pickups from any company.
  4. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    That's a pretty broad, rash statement you are making there.

    The Epiphone Jack Casady bass gets rave reviews around here, the Rivoli is a classisc and the reissue was supposed to be very good too, and they now have a reissue of the 1976 Thunderbird. I have no idea if it really has T-bird pickups, but if it does, it should be a pretty good bass.

    And I bought my wife an Epiphone Les Paul Studio, and it is a killer guitar, considering we got it for $299.
  5. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
    Is this thread backwards?

    Thunderbird for Slap? Dont know if good with a Pick?
    Lots of relief for good slaping?

    1) The Thunderbird is the perfect bass for grindy low Pick tones. And it sucks at slapping. My personal taste = I dont like any Gibson Bass. They just sound like ·$"%·"$%·"$%"%

    2) Slapping = Good when Neck is straight and good low action.

    Btw, Epiphones are not Gibsons Rip-offs, because Epiphone is a GIBSON Company!

    Want a good Slapper/Pick bass?

    SPECTOR is the one.
  6. Turlu

    Turlu Supporting Member

    Sep 11, 2000
    Ottawa, Ontario CANADA
    I recently bought a 1976 Gibson Thunderbird and to my great surprise, I easily slap on it and the sound is excellent !!! I use Dean Markley Blue steel strings on it and it sounds great.

    I also use a pick on it and it is excellent as well !!! It is such a great Bass.

    I do not know about the Epiphone T-Bird version but I would not expect too much of it if I compare to the guitar copies they produce...
  7. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    the gibson thunderbird is by far the most underrated bass. i don't know anything about the epiphone, but the gibson is a great sounding bass, maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but has an huge sound, really versatile passive bass and great with finger and pick. i'm not a slapper but a friend of mine is a slapper and when played my t-bird was really impressed by the slapping tone of the gibson beast.
    i love my t-bird!
  8. boogiebass


    Aug 16, 2000
    Yep, you said it, amigo. Just what I was thinking. Epi's are, on balance, excellent values and many of them are quite good. I also prefer the Viola to any Hofner ever made and the Epi Les Paul 5 string (despite a weak B string) is a pretty solid bass that can be had at a ridiculously low price.
  9. pmkelly


    Nov 28, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    ...So I guess that all the MIM and MIJ Fenders are P.O.S. because they aren't MIA? I could go on, but I think you see my point...

    I just got my Epi Tbird, about 2 weeks ago, and It is great with a pick... there is plenty o' room to thrash about mightily! I dig it. The only beef I have with it is the neck, and since I play mostly my J basses, then you can understand the Epi neck takes a little to get used to. But it is a nice change of pace for me, and mine sounds great!

  10. I gues I was a little too loose on my use of words, all the Epiphone basses (or guitars) <i>I've played</i> really weren't up to the Gibson models, shure they play well and sound pretty good for the price but its nothing that's going to tear me away from Fender or Ibanez.
  11. I'm not sure why i put the thumbs down. But what i was sayin is the string spacing enough for slappin? It seems my fingers would be super scrunched up, and i dont think the pick-ups would matter cause its sounds really good to me w/ my P-pups when i slap and really crappy w/ the j's. that might jus be my opinion, and it seems im the only one w/ that opinion
  12. The EPI Rivoli and Jack Cassidy are exelant. I don't know about the others but these 2 are nice basses.

    As far as the string spacing again I am not sure compared to the Gibson but seeing that they probally used Gibsons specs you probally won't have a problem. I play a thumb bass and If I pick up my ThunderBird to slap on I really don't feel like I have to relearn what I am doing. I also like the tone of the ThunderBird but that is probally my era talking. OverEnd Watts.
  13. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    And the reason that they don't measure up to the Gibson models is because they are made in Korea, and cost 1/3 to 1/4 of what the Gibson model does. They are to Gibson what a MIM or one of the old MIK Squiers are to MIA Fender.
  14. Boozie


    Oct 5, 2001
    Tempe, AZ
    Epiphone was one of the most prestigious names in the business. But when the company fell on some hard times, it got sold to Gibson and Epiphone guitars were built in a facility right next to Gibson’s in Kalamazoo, Michigan. This was in about 1957.
    Eventually, for a variety of reasons Epiphone guitars ceased to be made by Gibson and were being built overseas and imported by CMI, which was then Gibson’s parent company. While quality at that point didn’t match that of the Gibson instruments, neither did the prices, and Epiphones were known as a solid deal: A good guitar at an affordable price.
    But as the people who built the instruments got better at it, and as soaring sales allowed new woodworking equipment to be purchased, quality started going up dramatically, to the point where many of the current Epiphone guitars are as good or even better than Gibsons.
    Epiphone has even started creating its own line of special edition instruments like the “Jack Casady”.
  15. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    Epiphone guitars are as good or even better than Gibsons.

    still hoping to find an epiphone better than a gibson...:confused:
  16. gweimer


    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Then I should let you see my Epiphone Embassy sometime! Actually, most everyone has hit the major points on Epiphone. They were, in the '60s, every bit as good as Gibson, because they were made in the same building by the same people, using the same components. My Embassy has the exact same electronics as the original Thunderbirds. When Norlin Music sold Epiphone to the Japanese in the '70s, they tried to cut costs far too much, and the brand was compromised. When Gibson bought them back, I'm not quite sure what they wanted to do with the brand. First, they tried to revive their rep with the batwing headstock models (just like the '60s models were), but made Fender clones in doing so. Huh???? They did, however, make the EBM series, which were pretty decent for the price. Gibson now seems to be using the Epiphone brand to reissue old Gibson basses. Some of them work, some of them don't. I REALLY like the violin shaped basses - both the EB-1 and Viola. I think they're both well done. the EB-3 is pretty shabby, and the Thunderbirds are a far cry from the Gibson originals, but that doesn't imply they are bad - just very different in nature.
  17. Boozie


    Oct 5, 2001
    Tempe, AZ
    You guys/girls are funny-- I got a stripped JC bass Put an Aguilar preamp and an emg pickup in it. Created a titanium nut and this thing plays and sounds better than any of my other basses- I totally loved my 77 p bass custom-- until now ...this thing rocks- Yes I have an Ibanez Ergodyne( It was devolped for idiots like me) guess where it was made...? Epiphones rock-- Im sorry... except for bolt on T-birds-- and 8 string ethnic basses I dont know what the hell thats all about.
  18. boogiebass


    Aug 16, 2000
    I totally agree.
  19. Boozie


    Oct 5, 2001
    Tempe, AZ
    Thanks boogie--- I agree with you too !