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Question for Eden Navigator owners

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Gorgula, Jul 9, 2003.

  1. Jul 9, 2003 #1
    Gorgula

    Gorgula

    Oct 16, 2002
    So Cal
    Hi there,

    I tried a Navigator and really liked the tone, but it seemed to have a low input level. I could be completely wrong so I figured I'd get a consensus from you guys...

    So here's my question.

    When you set both your Gain and Master controls to 12 O'clock, where are your VU meters reading?
    (Assuming that all EQ is FLAT and Turbo Boost is OFF)

    IOW, where do you have to set your Gain and Master controls in order to get the VU meters to hit 0 db? (the first set of Red LED's)

    I know this will vary from bass to bass, but I'm trying to get a general idea. BTW my bass has a fairly hot output.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jul 9, 2003 #2
    Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    The meters will read low.

    Live, I use my Nav through a QSC 3002 power amp, with the Nav set with pregain at about 5, and post at about 4. Only the first two LED's stay lit, the third blinks with louder notes and slapping. You aren't going to peg it across to the red unless you're overdriving it pretty hard.
     
  3. Jul 9, 2003 #3
    tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    You can get plenty of gain out of the Navigator. However, the way it is setup, 12 o'clock on both gains is going to be a fairly low setting. I run mine pretty close to Eric - somewhere between 3 and 5 o'clock on both pre-gain and master.

    Great preamp, BTW.

    Tom.
     
  4. Jul 9, 2003 #4
    Biker4Him

    Biker4Him

    Apr 4, 2003
    Yukon, OK. USA
    Both my pre and master are set about 10:30 to 11:00. Going into my PLX 1602. If I turn the pre up much more than that, it starts to lose clarity, and gets a little grainy. That usually keeps all but my last row of greens lit up, and when I get really nuts, the first set of reds will blinkity blink!
     
  5. Jul 10, 2003 #5
    tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    You must be pushing a lot more gain out of your axe than I am! Even with smacking the living daylight out of my strings, I don't think that I could get the red lights to hit with both of my gain knobs below 12:00!

    Tom.
     
  6. Jul 10, 2003 #6
    Biker4Him

    Biker4Him

    Apr 4, 2003
    Yukon, OK. USA
    The Bart preamp has an output level on the back, I keep it turned about 1/2 way between all the way and all the way down. Then I do run the low's and mid's pretty hot.

    I had to do it this way before I got the new rig, but.... I'm still playing around with all the knobs, so maybe I'll try new settings on my axe!!!:hyper:
     
  7. Jun 8, 2006 #7
    Greg the Gibbon

    Greg the Gibbon

    May 13, 2006
    Central Coast, NSW, Australia
    I'm with you Tom. I'm running a passive jazz into the nav & getting no more than 3 LEDs light up, even when everything is turned up & turbo boosted.

    I suspect it's got to do with the Bass signal & whether the Output limiter switch has been depressed or not.

    My sound guys reckon I'll get better sound quality if I push it harder, but I'm not sure...