Question on Markbass cabs: Standard 104HR + 151HR

The only person that can answer this queation, is you, running both cabs, at a gig.

Everything else is a crap shoot.

 

That'd be a tremendous waste of the 410's capability.

 

Markbass cabinets are not known for their low end. They are voiced with a low mid bump that you cannot ignore. All their yellow-coned cabs sound tonally similar to me. I had an old black coned silver-faced logo 610 that had tons of low end.

Iualum is correct though, adding the 115 to the 410 will limit the 410. The 115 cannot take nearly as much power and will fry first. If you are going to run a 410/115 combo, put the 115 on top so you can hear it stress first.

As a person that has used lots of Markbass gear, and loved it, I recommend you look at another brand of cabinet to pair with your head. You will find more bottom elsewhere.

 

What is are your budget and weight limits?

 

What is your tonal goal? Massive low end, that is it? I love my Epifani UL2-310, it has a slightly scooped voicing but tons of lows. I also enjoy my fEARful 1212/6, but that is probably overkill here. A 15/6 would probably be more of what you're after. fEARful is another cabinet I do not recommend to everybody, I love them but I get why people do not. They do have insane low end, however. Bergantino would be another good choice.

 

Cool. What about price?

 

I love my Berlin and NY151 extension cab. All the volume and low end needed for my purposes .

If OP wants a change and more low end, I 'm sure that a LMTube 800 would rock a pair of NY151s and keep the weight down as well.

 

Have you sorted out this issue? What is your experience with the 104HR? I'm thinking of getting one to replace my CMD121P + NY121P setup.

 

Were/are you using the 4 or 8ohm version of the 104HR?

 

Our ears change their perception of loudness as loudness increases, so an EQ setting at bedroom levels will not work at concert levels. That being said, the 15" cabs from Markbass are not to be considered sub woofers by any means. If anything, I think the 15" and 12" cabs have more low mid punch than the 10" cabs, which seem a little boomier.

 

So you think that the 104HR (4ohm) will be boomier than my CMD121P + NY121P? I'm thinking of buying it just to try out something different, to get a different and perhaps better (for me) tone. But if it is going to be boomy, then no...

 

I don't think the HR will be.

 

I have a NY122 which is a 2x12 and compared to a 104HR the 104HR seems darker, especially at louder volumes. The 104HF is definitely darker. One thing to consider is that even if the 104HR has a low end that can get boomy at loud volumes, you can always back it off with EQ. The other thing is to definitely try the 104HR before you buy, as it has its own character that many don't like, and most seem to prefer the 104HF. I personally don't and prefer the 104HR as it seems tighter and more defined. I just happen to think the NY122 is more defined and punchier.

Your current setup should be great and is very common with small bands here. Also, 2 12" cones are about the same area as a 3x10. My NY122 with an old little mark 250 gets so loud and I have yet to push it above half volume on the master.

 

And if you consider that I only use this setup for fun/practice at home... As mentioned above, the idea is just to try some other flavour (and certainly at low volumes). I'm an amateur bass payer (art historian by profession) so I play along tunes at home or sometimes with a couple of friends. So it is highly unlikely that I will ever play in front of any audience or that I will have to crank up my equipment. But I enjoy the quality of tone, even of a couple of notes played tastefully. Given the pandemic situation, it is impossible to try the 104HR before buying it. As long as the 104HR will not sound the same or worse than my current rig but somehow different, and possibly better, I'm probably willing to authorize the expenditure. That said, I do like my equipment and that's why I'm a bit hesitant to spend money on further equipment. It is difficult, because it is so subjective, to asses if it's worth it or not.

PS. Do they still have the huge green Gaggia coffee machine at Milano Centrale? Best espresso/cappuccino ever!

 

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If you're not going to play out, a 4x10" box makes no sense. Why not try a 2x10"?
I have both a 121HR and 102P and I do play out regularly. Either box alone can cover most typical lounges unless looking to get real loud. Both together give me all I'll ever need. You have the 12s, try a 2x10".