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Question on political stance

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by mad_world, Nov 6, 2002.


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  1. mad_world

    mad_world

    Nov 3, 2002
    Well im 16 and im not into politics at all. I'm an American but, im not an anarchist or anything i just don't pay much attention to political party's you could say.

    So my question is What defines you as a liberal and what are the opposites of liberal. I know that democrats tend to be liberals.


    in advance -thanks
     
  2. pigpen02

    pigpen02

    Mar 24, 2002
    conservatives are the opposites of liberals.there are lots of ways to describe these terms. it'll probably piss some people off, but traditionally, liberals are "proactive" and conservatives are "reactive."

    conservatives think that if people really believe in social spending, they'll give the money away on their own. liberals want the govt. to take lots of their money, give it away to people that don't in any way deserve it, and do it for them with a ridiculous degree of ineptitude.

    conservatives love domestic beer, jesus pictures w/out the mullet, and hunting w/ automatic weapons. liberals love disney, 3rd world countries, and blaming somebody else for their problems.

    liberals are fans of contemporary psychology, whereas conservatives would just hit you with a stick.

    conservatives like golf and contact sports; liberals have done away w/ dodge ball because it is to violent. conservatives also like their drugs w/ prescriptions or twist off caps. they also set consistent foreign policy goals, steal with less lying, and dress poorly.

    the us marine corps is conservative; the rainbow people are liberals.

    ultimately, both categories are hell bent on the world's destruction.

    check out a writer named p.j. o'rourke, great humorous reading that will set you straight:)
     
  3. The basic difference is that liberals are for change, and conservatives are against it.

    Liberals are for more government, Conservatives are for less government.

    I'd be able to identify with convservatives more if they werent' so concerned about allowing the tiny portion of people who have the most money to get even richer while the rest of the world becomes poorer.
     
  4. Tim Cole

    Tim Cole

    Jun 12, 2002
    Findlay, Ohio
    Thats some funny stuff, good way of generalizing it all into a few paragraphs. I am registered independent, but lean more towards the conservative. I do have agreements with both sides, and disagreements with both also.
     
  5. pigpen02

    pigpen02

    Mar 24, 2002
    yeah AN, i don't really feel represented by either party. where's the existential nihilists' party? :)there's good and bad to both, and as usual the right answer is somewhere in between the two.
     
  6. Wxp4759cb

    Wxp4759cb

    Nov 23, 2000
    Kansas City, MO
    Democrats - Government to oppress you.

    Republicans - Get rid of Government so your fellow man can oppress you.


    Your screwed either way. :(
     
  7. Mathias_TfG

    Mathias_TfG

    Apr 28, 2002
    New York
    :p I thought that I was a liberal, but with pig pen's description (which was pretty funny, by the way), I am confused. I am in favour of socialistic economic policies, anti-imperialism, anti-war, anti-censorship, drink canadian beer and a non-christian. However, I also shoot and consume wild animals, play contact sports, and am poorly dressed most of the time... What does this make me.:confused: :confused:
     
  8. Tim Cole

    Tim Cole

    Jun 12, 2002
    Findlay, Ohio
    A jerry springer guest.
     
  9. masaru

    masaru

    Aug 8, 2001
    Okinawa, Japan
    The Average American...
     
  10. SuperDuck

    SuperDuck

    Sep 26, 2000
    Wisconsin
    Of course you are. Asking somebody to sum up the bipartisan system in a few paragraphs is like asking Stephan Hawking explain to you all the physics he knows in a four-panel cartoon strip. (Non-colored, that is.) If you really want to be informed, you'll have to do some research.
     
  11. Talk about stereotypes :rolleyes:

    Keep a very open mind when it comes to politics and make politics something personal instead of a mass oriented ideology. The truth is because of the way our two party system works both sides are rarely going to agree with each other and what that has done is split this country in two. The truth is that most politicians are forced to comprimise their personal values to appeal to the masses. I emphasize the words "rarley" and "most"; of course theyre are exceptions. I Just personally feel very disenfranchised by the american political system. I urge anybody interested in this area to keep their eyes open and not be forced to believe what people want you too. Too many people derive power from the manipulation of words; and that speaks of politicians, lawyers and used car salesmen.
     
  12. Skorzen

    Skorzen

    Mar 15, 2002
    Springfield MA
    I think the real question is wether you think we have a constition to protect us from our government, or to get in the way of those who want to work "for" the people.

    Oh and We do Have a 10th amendment.


    Oh and this is a little off the topis, but I really hate when people rag on Bush for misspeaking. I am not a big fan of Bush but because someone may not be able to comunicte as well as others does not mean they are any less intelegent. Look at S. Hawking
     
  13. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY


    irony

    n 1: witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn: sarcasm, satire, caustic remark] 2: incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" 3: a trope that involves incongruity between what is expected and what occurs
     
  14. masaru

    masaru

    Aug 8, 2001
    Okinawa, Japan
    :D Thanks, Chris. You absolutely kill me!!!:D
     
  15. pd_5string

    pd_5string Admin: Accnt Disabled

    Jan 23, 2002
    NY
    Great Question:

    Conservative: Less government, pro-life, lower taxes, strong defense, negotiate from position of strength (fall of Soviet Union, End of Cold War), intent to preserve constitution (judges interpret consitution as is, and don't try to alter it's meaning), pro death penalty, advocate nuclear two parent family, strong religious overtones, strong sense of right and wrong (moral absolutists, i.e., the Sniper should be put to death, we need not "understand" what caused him to do what he did, it isn't important, some people are good, and some are evil) look at problems in society as management issues that need "fixing"

    Liberal: More government, more spending (when often times more money isn't the answer), higher taxes, military should be used as peacekeepers rather than for what it is supposed to be for, strong apathy towards the military and intelligence agencies, negotiate from positioin of weakness, intent to change constitution when need arises (not by ammendment process, but by the courts, also known as judicial activism), for abortion, anti family values, atheistic disregard for God, no right and wrong, everything is relative (what is right for you isn't necessarily right for me) look at problems as socio-economic, or racial i.e., "Us vs. Them," government is the solution to all problems that arise in people's lives, and should be used to reach a utopian way of life, tend to blame US for all negative foreign issues (i.e., it is the US's fault that 9/11 happened). However, all the above may be dismissed by a liberal if it means staying in power. That is the main "belief" of a liberal, that their existence in power must be furthered in order to execute the liberal agenda.

    That about sums it up.
     
  16. pd_5string

    pd_5string Admin: Accnt Disabled

    Jan 23, 2002
    NY
    It would appear that those that like to dog bush for stutters, flubs, etc. prefer to be hustled by the smooth talking used car salesman style of a Bill Clinton.

    Ever notice that some people are just TOO smooth?
     
  17. Bryan R. Tyler

    Bryan R. Tyler TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002 Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    May 3, 2002
    Connecticut
    Very unbiased definitions for a kid asking for valid information pd :rolleyes: Yep, Democrats are anti-family values. I like your definition of conservatives though. You can almost hear the sound of goose-stepping soldiers in your head.
     
  18. If you decide to search for info on this on the internet, just be careful to filter out the more extreme folks on either side. They're silly.
     
  19. pd_5string

    pd_5string Admin: Accnt Disabled

    Jan 23, 2002
    NY
    Yep, democrats are anti family values. The NOW (National Organization of Women) and other liberal feminists have gone so far to say that all men are inherently bad, etc., etc., and that women should be encouraged to have families on their own without a male in the picture. Couple that with the best 'lil program that not even the KKK could dream up to ruin generations of African Americans and jack up their illigitimacy rate (welfare), which encouraged single mothers to not get married, or be married in the first place, and to have more kids out of wedlock, and to not have any savings (in order to qualify for welfare there could be no male head of household and no savings account) and BOOM! Thanks liberals for tearing an entire community apart! Most of the problems facing African American's today is a direct result of this huge 70% illigitimacy rate that has been spawned by welfare.

    If you ever wanted to blame "whitey" for the maladies in the African American Community, welfare, a FAILED democratic, liberal program, has done to blacks what slavery couldn't even do, and that is make the illigitimacy rate ~70%.

    The funny thing? African Americans STILL vote democratic ~ 85% of the time.
     
  20. David Watts

    David Watts

    Aug 12, 2002
    seattle
    This will get the thread closed down, but I have to say it. PD you are full of @#$%! Your tagline should say narrow minded conservative.
     



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