As far as I know, I have no timing really. Im self taught (for two years now) and rely totally on the timing of any songs I play along to so I am aware of the need to improve my timing. I was reading a thread just now about using a metronome (even tried some of the things out in it) but what i want to know is: When playing are you conciously thinking (if says its 4/4) "1...2...3...4...1...2...3...4..." (that is to say, you are keeping track of each beat of the bar) or do you just like know from experiance where you are and what beat your on? Or do you just use the drummer to count to? I was told that the dummer keeps time and the bassest keeps rhythm? Ive never played with anyone before so its not an issue but nevertheless timing is important, I know that! When I play a song I have no idea how long any of the notes are, I just know from the song and memory when to stop playing that note and when to play the next one. By that i mean I dont count or anything when playing. Is this bad? I tried to tap my foot for each beat of a bar while playing on a few songs and found it really difficult and my foot tapping tended to speed up and competely go out of sync to the actual timing based on what I was playing (like Id do doubled tabs because it kinda felt like thats how it should go)? Is this a self control thing or just I have no timing? Any thoughs on what Ive said? Dont know if I made myself clear but any advice on time keeping tips etc would be good! I do have a metronome but thus far un-used really. What Im really after is the right attitude to timing which I dont think I have.