Questions regarding Marcus Miller Basses

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Pedro Carvalho, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    Hi guys, i'm a double bassist looking to get a decent but not expensive bass for mostly big band playing purposes..
    There are these two units:
    https://www.thomann.de/pt/marcus_miller_p7_alder_4_black_2nd_gen.htm
    https://www.thomann.de/pt/marcus_miller_p7_alder_4_aw_2nd_gen.htm
    they are 70 euros apart and i can't find any differences between them, can anyone help?

    p.s https://www.thomann.de/pt/marcus_miller_p7_alder_5_ts_2nd_gen.htm anyone has any positive feedback to provide on this one?

    p.p.s P basses or J basses for big bands?

    p.p.p.s can 5 string basses be tuned e-a-d-g-c ?

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    all of the previous questions have been answered!
    i now have these options to choose from, what would you recommend and why?
    options available:
    v7 1st gen 4 string swamp ash 325 euro
    v7 1st gen 5 string alder 340 euro
    v7 2nd gen 4 string fretless swamp ash 417 euro
    v7 2nd gen 4 string alder 460 euro
    v7 2nd gen 5 string 510 euro
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2019
  2. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    bump
     
  3. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    anyone?
     
  4. Leonid Nidis

    Leonid Nidis

    Jan 1, 2018
    No diffrence I can see between the two.
    P or J its your choice but the sire is PJ so plenty of sound options.
    all sires are good imo
    Yes can be tuned e a d g c
     
  5. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    thank you so much!
    but what do you mean the sire is PJ? i don't understand
     
  6. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    PJ is a Precision bass with a P (Precision) pickup and a J (Jazz) pickup instead of this, for example.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    so if i understand correctly, the P bass has both a P pickup and a J pickup? that sounds like a better bang for the buck
     
  8. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    The regular P has just the one pickup but the PJ has two like the Sires. Many love the PJ setup for its flexibility. The Sire P7s are a great deal, in my opinion - I have a 1st gen P7 5 string fretless that I love. :)
     
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  9. Rib 13

    Rib 13 Supporting Member

    Jun 20, 2006
    Home
    Not necessarily.......there's virtues to both J/J and P/J pickup configurations, especially with both pickups on.....You also have to ask yourself if you are going to utilize pickup selection and all those other options in your performance. I do, but I find I'm rare in that aspect.....A lot of times, a guy will get a bass and say how it has three pickups, active/passive options, series/parallel options, 90 band EQ, parametric equalizer, equametric paralyzer, switches, buttons, deflector shields, and a condom dispenser, and boast how the "bang for the buck" gets a zillion tones --but he/she will use one setting ("set it and forget it") the entire night.......Nothing wrong with this, of course, but you need to consider your approach as well....What I'm saying is: If you are a "set it and forget player", you may like the J/J tone setup better than P/J, or vise-versa.... (If using both pickups in variety/dance situations - which I do on about 90% of everything - I prefer J/J over P/J....I do like P/J for rock, though, but thats just me)

    V7 for me
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  10. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    Thank you :) is the sire P7 a PJ setup bass or a P bass?
     
  11. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    The Sire P7 is a PJ setup:

    [​IMG]
    Couple that configuration with the best preamp under $1K (in my opinion) and you have a great bass! I haven't yet tried one of the 2nd gen either, those are even better than my 1st gen.
     
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  12. BassmanM

    BassmanM

    Feb 17, 2011
    Hamburg, Germany
  13. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    There are probably as many players who distinctly dislike PJs as there are bassists that love them. Seems to be somewhat of a love/hate phenomenon. Nothing wrong with the V7 though! (I have two, fretted and fretless pair of 5ers.) ;)
     
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  14. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    thank you, @bholder and @BassmanM !!
    i have a nice price deal available for the V7 4 string and 5 string..
    the P7 is about 80 euro more expensive than the J7, worth it? i'll use the EB in big bands only, jazz/blues playing..
     
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  15. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    It's hard to say, it's really a personal preference thing, but I understand you may not be able to try before buying? You really can't go wrong with that choice, either bass will fit right in anyplace a similar Fender would (which is pretty much any place at all). :thumbsup:
     
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  16. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    There are a number of basic Fender body shapes...from left to right, P bass, Jazz bass, PJ with P body, PJ with Jazz body.
    (P pickup is the famous split pickup and J pickup is the single-coil used in Jazz basses.
    Sometimes they combine the two.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Rib 13

    Rib 13 Supporting Member

    Jun 20, 2006
    Home
    I have a few P-J basses as well....I prefer them for rock and harder styles.....for variety and dance-pop stylings/corporate bands/etc, I go J-J....but thats just me :)

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    this is great , thank you ao much!!
     
  19. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    You're welcome.
    And just for fun a reverse P pickup and a reverse P pickup in a humbucker housing.
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Pedro Carvalho

    Pedro Carvalho

    Oct 20, 2018
    Portugal
    sorry for the nuisance, but another question since i'm surrounded by experts.. what's the difference between roundwounds and flatwounds and what's "0.40" "0.45" and all those things i see in string packs?