Quincy Jones says Paul McCartney was the worst bassist he ever heard

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  1. marchone

    marchone Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2009
    NYC
    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss other people.

    This entire thread is about petty gossip.
     
  2. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Is there some competition on Talkbass to have the most poop-posts?
     
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  3. Wood and Wire

    Wood and Wire

    Jul 15, 2017
    Talk-Smack!

    Ironically, if you go on the Talk Smack forums, there's very little argument over freebasing, but one particularly heated thread regarding something Pablo Escobar once said about El Chapo.
     
  4. Apparently, @JimmyM. Mods, can we finally close this cringe-fest?
     
  5. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    What were your first impressions of the Beatles?

    :D
     



  6. Post of the year. Bravo sir.
     
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  7. TyBo

    TyBo

    Dec 12, 2014
    Yes ... you've argued that those first impressions probably came during the Beatles' very early years, before they became proficient. I've pointed out the impossibility of that, given the inclusion of Ringo in the comments, who joined after they got signed signed to Parlophone records. So, not early, early days, and demonstrably not lacking in proficiency at that point.

    So if Jones made those comments about the Beatles as the world at large came to know them, then he clearly missed the boat on the skills they DID have as musicians, and his initial perceptions would have been inaccurate in that way. The visual and aural evidence that exists shows that the group (and Paul and Ringo specifically) were objectively not "the worst musicians in the world", not by a long shot. If they were judged by some other standard (like by jazz standards, rather than pop music standards) then that would be like judging a fish for not flying.

    Maybe Jones, at the time, judged them by some standard that didn't really apply, or maybe he didn't even make the statement at all, as he claimed in his apology to McCartney. Either way, he has NOT stood behind those comments. It would be misguided and inaccurate to try to use them as a way way to disparage the abilities of what was very obviously a talented group of musicians, who played and sang on more hits than than any other band in history - however one feels about their music, they demonstrably were not "the worst musicians in the world". Pretty simple, really. "Dig" it. ;)
     
  8. marchone

    marchone Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2009
    NYC
    I was gobsmacked.

    :hyper:
     
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  9. TyBo

    TyBo

    Dec 12, 2014
    :laugh::thumbsup::bassist:
     

  10. I heard I wanna Hold Your Hand on the AM radio in Jan 1964 and wanted to play "one of those humming guitars" and here I am.
     
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  11. Lownote38

    Lownote38

    Aug 8, 2013
    Nashville, TN
    Sounds like Quincy and a certain guy named Wynton Marsalis are long lost brothers. I expect Wynton to say things like that, but not Quincy. Disappointing.
     
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  12. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    While Quincy wasn't. Impossible!
    :D

    Maybe that's how others are reading the question, as if it was being asked of them. Wouldn't be at all surprising these days.
     
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  13. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    AGAIN, good thing you aren't digging in, which was the baseless claim you made. Fanboys be annoying.
    :D
     
  14. marchone

    marchone Supporting Member

    Nov 30, 2009
    NYC
    I purposely took the posted question literally, and out of the context of the thread for levity. And redirection. I thought it had become a bit staid.
     
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  15. TyBo

    TyBo

    Dec 12, 2014
    Jesus, you're still going on this? With nothing to add but personal insults? Dude ... :)
     
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  16. Billyzoom

    Billyzoom Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2011
    Bay Area
    THANK YOU. Well said.
     
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  17. Billyzoom

    Billyzoom Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2011
    Bay Area
    This may be the most ridiculous post I’ve ever read on this site.
     
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  18. Billyzoom

    Billyzoom Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2011
    Bay Area
    Unfortunately I’m old enough now to not be surprised by how so many people get butt hurt and start projecting all sorts of nonsense on to somebody when they read an article like this.

    Quincy Jones legacy as a jazz musician alone is significant. His legacy as a producer alone is significant. His body of work as an arranger alone is significant. His complete body of work, which was performed at the highest level of competence, covers decades. Not many people in history have a comparable body of work over such a period of time. And if he hadn’t had a brain aneurysm that forced him to stop playing, his body of work as a musician would be even greater.

    So he’s somebody who speaks his mind. And maybe you don’t agree. So what? Paul McCartney and the Beatles hardly need us leaping to their defense.

    And to do it in a way that tears him down and dismisses him is extremely ignorant, and is essentially doing the same thing to him that you’re saying he was doing to the Beatles.
     
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  19. J-Bassomatic

    J-Bassomatic

    Mar 30, 2017
    Canton OH
    I like how you lead with 'unfortunately you're old enough now to not be surprised' LOL. There's no disputing Quincy Jones' legacy. As a non-jazz, non-classical trained, teenaged idiot who listened to music on a clandestine transistor radio under my pillow at night until I got a job and bought a box that had some low frequency response I loved those bass parts by the Entwistles and the McCartneys of the music world. That bass player who played for Tommy James or the one who played with the Boxtops. I do find it odd that Jones would tear down McCartney specifically and not all the other non-classical, non-jazz trained bassists who formed my musical world. What they did WORKED. And worked very well! Could Jones have written a bass part more perfect than the one Paul wrote for 'Come Together'? I really don't think so. No offense to anyone. They were in different worlds.
     
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  20. s van order

    s van order

    Oct 4, 2012
    Delaware
    Relax everybody, in a recent interview QJ said he’d recently had dinner with Macca who was a close friend. We all should realize that QJ is just effing with people and having fun. Have a laugh with him.
     
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