For quite some time now, it seems like in all the current hard rock, a.k.a."nu metal" (which isn't considered "metal," I know), bands I hear, all the guitarists are pedal-dependent, detuned chord bangers. I can't think of one who has played a solid, masterful, guitar break or guitar hook. Admittedly, it isn't the current style. Stuff from the 60's-70's sounds out of time now, and lord knows the hair, makeup, the outfits of the 80's bands look really silly now, and 90's grunge just got too depressing. But the many of the guitarists in these bands sure let you know they could deliver the goods. I don't consider myself a nu metal expert, but I often hear bands such as Puddle of Mud, Drowning Pool, Mudvayne, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Fear Factory, Rival Schools, Soulfly, My Dying Bride, System of a Down, et al and I never think, "Jeez, that guitar is hot!" There is no hidden agenda in this thread. I just would like to hear if anyone thinks (or knows) if these guys are really solid players who can pick a coherent melody or scorch a fretboard if they were given the chance? Even some of the old punk guitarists seem like virtuosos compared to the guitarists in these bands.