Rack vs pedal

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by fuzzspiral, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. fuzzspiral


    Dec 8, 2018
    Hi all! Is there any substantial differences between a compressor and tuner mounted on rack and their pedal versions on a pedalboard?

    Stay fuzzy
  2. One is most likely on the floor, the other is most likely not.

    One is most likely happiest running at instrument level, the other is most likely happiest running at line level.

    One may be cheaper, the other may be more expensive.

    One may have more options/models/brands available, the other may have a smaller range.

    One may be easier to transport, the other may not be so easy.

    One may be perceived as more modern, the other may result in people thinking you are stuck in the 80s.

    That’s about all I can think of right now.
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  3. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Gold Supporting Member

    IME: yes, sometimes!

    depending on your goal/need: the rackable stuff is often more versatile...and often more complicated (and often more expensive!).

    if you need to tune 4-5 strings quickly to play with your band, and if you need some compression to 'even things out' a bit = pedals are great!
  4. It would be tough to beat the versatility and tweakability/amount of controls this compressor has!

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  5. fuzzspiral


    Dec 8, 2018
    I asked because I was looking around if loopers are needed to be added in signal chain, in the fx loop of the amp, ecc.
    So I can decide if it's a good idea to sell a rack that I'm using now, for an amp, or keep it for the future...
    I guess I got the general idea, thank you!
  6. If you use pedals, do not use the effects loop, although there are some pedals that will work alright through one. If you use rack gear though, then do use only the effects loop. That’s pretty much it.
  7. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Gold Supporting Member

    no. you do not need a looper pedal to insert a tuner and compressor into your chain. for some: that might be a preferred way to do it, however. again: depending on your goal/need.

    if you explain what you want to accomplish you might get responses that are on target --- for your situation. good luck! :thumbsup:

    yeah, that's nice! :thumbsup:
  8. fuzzspiral


    Dec 8, 2018
    Ok, thank you very much to all for the advices :thumbsup:
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  9. Koshchei


    Mar 17, 2019
    Peterborough, ON
    Why would you advise this? While some pedals can be noisy and/or not play nice with other effects, the general rule of thumb is to put your wah, tuner and distortion out in front of the amp, and then modulation and time based effects in the f/x loop, after the preamp. If you have a looper, it should be the very last thing in the f/x loop.
  10. That’s not a rule of thumb I’ve ever heard from anyone that uses effects regularly. Furthermore, the majority of pedals are not designed to operate in an effect loop. Also, I want all of my pedals in front of my preamp, not after it. As far as a looper goes, it really depends upon how you want to use it. Perhaps you want to loop a clean signal that heads into your dirt pedals. To each their own, and that really is the most important part. If you like some pedals in your effect loop and don’t have difficulties with them there, then by all means carry on!
  11. Koshchei


    Mar 17, 2019
    Peterborough, ON
    You’re kidding, right?
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  12. Kriegs


    Feb 14, 2018
  13. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    May 24, 2006
    Depends on how the effects loop is implemented on a particular amp. Not all implementations are the same.