Hey guys have lived near some dunes for a long time and have always seen guys out there racing these gas powerd off road cars. So i thought i would like to do this my self. But i hate to spend so much cash on somthing that i know nothing about. So if any of you guys r into this please give me some ideas. Keep in mind that i am not real picky. I will not race off the bat with this thing in fear of looking like a readl dork wad! So i will just learn slow and up grade before i do. So think cheaper models or used if any of you know of any! ohh this isnt like sand dunes more like small gravel dunes! Thanks guys.