Reasons for preferring 45-65-80-105 over 45-65-85-105?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Ricky Rioli, Jun 3, 2021.


  1. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    I knew I wanted to try Rotosound Swing Bass 66s

    I knew with other brands I've liked 45 65 85 105, but I saw that Rotosound's original standard set was 45 65 80 105. I figured they must have had a reason for preferring that thinner A string, so I went for that traditional set

    I've found though that I feel the A string is to be missing the bite that the other 3 strings have: it's a much simpler, more bassy sound, and I find it hard to keep the tone consistent when going from the A to the D.

    This is just my opinion, though, and I'm kind of tired of it whining away, and would like to hear someone explaining how they perceive that thinner A string to be a real benefit. Please, thank you :smug:
     
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  2. Aidil

    Aidil

    Dec 4, 2014
    Jkt, IDN
    Maybe, it's because the tension of 80 is closer to 45 and 105. Although, for completely balanced tension, some of us prefer a customized set of 45 60 80 105. Just my 2¢ :whistle:
     
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  3. Lowbrow

    Lowbrow Supporting Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    Pittsburgh PA!
    Possibly the lighter gauge was seen as somewhat lessening breakage potential on what is generally the most-played string? I know when I was playing in a 16th-note downstroke band switching to RS’s medium-light Swing Bass saved me from having to take 3 basses to every gig.
     
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  4. Fondsdale

    Fondsdale

    Sep 30, 2015
    Oz
    I was searching this yesterday to decide on which roto set to buy. Apparently the 80 is close to the same tension as the 105 whereas the 85 is the same as the 65 in tension. I guess it depends if you want an A string that feels closer to the E or one that feels more like the D and G. For slapping, I would imagine the A and E being close in feel would be ideal whereas if you play melodic lines up the neck maybe the higher tension and more even feel of the A,D,G would be beneficial.

    Rotosound Swing Bass - RS66LD vs LF?
     
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  5. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    I had read that explanation, but here are the numbers

    45 - 65 - [80 / 85] - 105

    48.27 - 51.30 - [43.80 / 46.80] - 38.60
     
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  6. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    Ah thank you. I know literally nothing about slapping so this was the news I needed :)
     
  7. Geri O

    Geri O Endorsing Artist, Mike Lull Guitars and Basses Gold Supporting Member

    Sep 6, 2013
    Florence, MS
    Not being a Rotosounds fan, it never crossed my mind. The gauges in my preferred set of D’addarios works perfectly for me.
     
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  8. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    More education, thank you! :D
     
  9. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    I've had Daddarios before - started on 45 65 80 100, was much happier on 45 65 85 105. You would have thought that would have taught me a lesson, eh? :laugh:
     
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  10. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    I have a set of Chromes with those gauges and yes its marvellous. And in the UK it cost me the equivalent of $80 to assemble it from single strings.... :dead:
     
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  11. staurosjohn

    staurosjohn Supporting Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    Nottingham, MD
    IDK the ‘answer’ - but just picked up 2 sets… the NPS ‘Standard’ set is 0.085 - SS requires ‘Custom’ for 0.085… I use *them* because I’m a ‘hard player’ & need the extra tension / girth, etc!

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  12. Spidey2112

    Spidey2112

    Aug 3, 2016
    As it is in football, it's a game of thousandths of an inch.
     
  13. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    The cross section of an 085 is 13% larger than that of an 080. Go 13% of the way down a football pitch and its first down.
     
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  14. 9Thumbs

    9Thumbs

    Jul 3, 2013
    Near Boston
    You guys are always wanting basses that weigh less than 7 pounds. A lighter gauge A string would certainly help.
     
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  15. Same here...

    Started out with 45-65-80-100, went to 45-65-85-105, then eventually settled on 45-60-80-105. For me, it was the 65D vs. 60D that made a bigger difference than the 85A vs. 80A. Just can't stand a D that's tighter than the rest!
     
  16. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    My ideal is all four strings so tight that I just have to look at them and they start singing out :woot:
     
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  17. staurosjohn

    staurosjohn Supporting Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    Nottingham, MD
    :laugh::laugh::D :cool:
     
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  18. Interestingly enough, when Marcus Miller used to endorse DR Fat Beams, his signature set was 45-65-80-105.

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  19. rashrader

    rashrader

    Mar 4, 2004
    Baltimore, MD
    String Tension. Listen, they are only strings. Just experiment and find what you like. I enjoy balanced tension strings. They work for me.
     
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  20. Ricky Rioli

    Ricky Rioli

    Sep 29, 2020
    UK
    What makes you think that this isn't exactly what's going on? I experimented, I didn't like it, I'll be moving on. Is being curious what other people might like about what I've just not liked going to kill me? o_O
     
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