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Rebirth of the Badass! The new Omega Bridge

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by walterw, Aug 14, 2015.


  1. Goad

    Goad Grunt for Life

    Jun 22, 2015
    Houston
    so the strings just rest on the top there? I'm looking for a replacment bridge for my 2015 Jaguar, wondering if these will fit
     
  2. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth

    Jan 2, 2015
    heart of darkness
    There's been quite a lot of discussion about cutting slots for the strings & even some tutorials on how it's done.
     
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  3. Goad

    Goad Grunt for Life

    Jun 22, 2015
    Houston
    these are not string through, or do I need new glasses?
     
  4. Dadagoboi

    Dadagoboi CATALDO BASSES Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 1, 2005
    Florida Swamp
    CataldoBasses: Designer/Builder ThunderBuckerPickups:Consultant
    Correct, it's an exact copy of a Badass II. They're top mount only

    Pretty easy to drill them out for string thru, I did it to one of mine in '97, before Badass III came out.

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    You can see string thru holes clearly on D and G in line with the mounting screws. I used it top loaded on this bass but it worked just fine thru the body on others.
     
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  5. PunkKitty

    PunkKitty Supporting Member

    Feb 2, 2014
    I sent Allparts a question about Badass II Replacement Saddles:

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  6. 1960jbass

    1960jbass Supporting Member

    Mar 28, 2013
    Berwick, PA
    Does anyone know where these are being made?? US or China??
     
  7. ZenG

    ZenG

    Dec 13, 2013
    Near the fridge
    Just a technical question out of curiosity.......why are BadAss bridges and their twin brothers considered to be so good?

    When I look at pics of them I don't see anything revolutionary really......
     
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  8. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    They were the first high mass replacement bridge on the market. That's it, really.
     
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  9. Dadagoboi

    Dadagoboi CATALDO BASSES Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 1, 2005
    Florida Swamp
    CataldoBasses: Designer/Builder ThunderBuckerPickups:Consultant
    Sort of like Columbus 'discovering' America or Leo and the Precision. Somebody had to be the 'first'...whether it was a good idea or not.

    Kudos to Quan for finding a perceived need and filling it...not trademarking the look was probably a major mistake.
     
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  10. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    alpha-music.com
    well, at the time they were replacements for '70s fender bridges, which had no adjustable spacing and gaps between the saddles so they would slide around and drift out of adjustment.

    remember, aside from the high mass thing the design "hook" with the quan was primarily that you'd notch the saddles (creating your ideal string spacing) and that the saddles rode in those tracks in the bridge base so there was no side-to-side movement.

    funny that the '60s stock fender bridges with the threaded saddles had already solved both of those problems, only to be abandoned by CBS.
     
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  11. Dadagoboi

    Dadagoboi CATALDO BASSES Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 1, 2005
    Florida Swamp
    CataldoBasses: Designer/Builder ThunderBuckerPickups:Consultant
    Still my favorite Fender bridge.
     
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  12. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY Supporting Member

    What does that matter? Leave politics out of it.

    On a different note, if the saddles are sitting up on two screws (like most bridges do), elevated from the plate, just how does anyone figure the extra mass being advantageous over a stable threaded saddle Fender?
     
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  13. 1960jbass

    1960jbass Supporting Member

    Mar 28, 2013
    Berwick, PA
    After being a victim of off shoring jobs several times, it makes a difference to me. Plus so many products from China have been found to have enviromently bad materials in them and the quality can be highly questionable at times.
     
  14. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY Supporting Member

    We'll it's being sold by an American company isn't it? And for a hefty $80 to boot.

    I'll add that there presence of all the nasty metals and plastics in all your electric and electronic devices in your home make your consideration of a zinc bridge, made in relatively small numbers for a tiny market, somewhat absurd.
     
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  15. I own 6 basses, all Fender style.
    4 have BadAss bridges, one has a Hipshot A and one has a Gotoh. They're all better than the original Fender bridge IMHO because (except for the Gotoh) they all have saddles which rest in tracks. This is an improvement over the bent plate bridge because the saddles can't move side to side. It's funny that even Fender's improvements on their bridges haven't addressed this.
     
  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Both the AmStd bridge and the bent plate AmDlx bridge I got to replace it have tracks for the saddles. Just sayin' :D
     
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  17. Both the AmStd bridge and the bent plate AmDlx bridge I got to replace it have tracks for the saddles. Just sayin' :D

    On one Fender bridge, yes you got me. As you can see at about 2:27 of this Ed Friedland video for the Am Std P5, the 2008 and later hi mass vintage bridge that Fender has been using on their American Standard and American Deluxe models does have tracks that the saddles rest in. I've noticed that they're quite shallow and maybe still prone to slip?


    A few years ago, I saw this video for a new hi mass bridge on their custom shop basses:


    At about the 3:02 mark, you can see that this bridge does not have any tracks. My question is why not? They went to all that trouble designing and making it and it still looks like it would have the same issues as their original design.

    I know that here on Talkbass, some people love their BA bridges and some hate them. I happen to like them. To each his own. I'm glad to see that someone else is making them again and it looks exact, unlike Fender's bad version.
    YMMV
     
  18. crucislancer

    crucislancer Supporting Member

    Dec 25, 2009
    Cotati, CA
    I think the side-to-side movement of the saddles would be minimized by the design of that particular bridge.
     
  19. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Hmmm. yeah, there's no tracks on that one. Weird. At any rate, I've not had any trouble with slippage out of the tracks, so I'll keep it, and really, I'm just not that fussy about them to where it matters to me even if they slide a little. But I get why others might be irritated with it...it's just not a big concern for me.
     
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  20. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY Supporting Member

    Why would it need tracks when the outer rails do the same thing? Each saddle is nestled against its neighbor and the outer two hit the outer walls.

    BA has zero advantage to that bridge.
     
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