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Red Innovation RAB?

Discussion in 'Strings [DB]' started by Francois Blais, Mar 14, 2014.

  1. Hi.
    Just seen this on Bob G's site:

    Its written:
    Anyone knows in what way they are different from the originals?

    I know they were working on a new core material, so maybe these are the first sets using it?

  2. Just the color. I know a few guys using them, and that's the report I got.
  3. They haven't worked on a new core, they needed to get a new supplier for the core. And current strings are made with this new core (except the Honeys which still have their old core).
  4. Mark Gollihur

    Mark Gollihur Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 19, 2000
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Owner/President, Gollihur Music LLC
    Actually, Christopher (who tried a set for a few months on his gigging bass) reported that the strings were slightly different in feel (he switched from Silver Slaps/SuperSilvers) - the G is actually quite nice. I think he said the gauge was a little thicker, maybe a bit more like the Psycho Slaps, but I'll have to ask him when he gets back (he's on tour in NZ right now).
  5. News on these strings from Christopher, Mark?
  6. cdavisshannon


    Jun 11, 2014
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    employee Gollihur Music
    Francois, I didn't find them any different from the original Rockabillys aside from the G, and was told by innovation that the G string was the only one different since they couldn't get the color right with the original wrap. I dug the G a lot, it had a great gut like attack to the front of the note. I probably would have stuck with them if they were not red...and a bit lighter tension. A great Pizz string but I have too many slap gigs for them to be the right fit currently. Back on to the Goldenslaps.
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  7. Thanks Christopher!
    How would describe the difference between the black G and the red G please?
    The color is kind of a turnoff for me though...
  8. cdavisshannon


    Jun 11, 2014
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    employee Gollihur Music
    It's hard to describe but I would say the difference to me is the more stark articulation at the front of the note that the Red one has. The color was a turn off for me too, and I generally like odd stuff.
  9. Bigbassguy


    Jun 5, 2017
    Tension wise, how do they compare to silver slaps. Do silvers have the same smooth feel of the rock a billy's?
    Im looking for an innovation string that would match up with my d and g plane gut strings.
  10. The RABs are medium tension while the slaps are low tension.
    The slaps outer winding is not completely flat like the RABs.
    I feel kind of roundish nylon wire, but smoother than Super Silvers.
    To match plain gut, I think I'd go with the slaps.
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  11. Silver Slaps do mix well with naked gut strings (around 20 kp of tension, which seems to be a usual medium naked gut tension). I have tested this with medium Efranos. But I also like the full Silver Slap set, maybe even better than the mix.
    But the tension is too low for my taste, so I play a bit higher tension strings myself.
  12. My old set of Silver Slaps that I got used is rather flat, nothing roundish there.
    Have only played on Super Silvers once on a bass, but I cannot remember them well. They might have been closer to a roundwound outer winding.
  13. Bigbassguy


    Jun 5, 2017
    Thanks guys. I guess we all are looking for the best match with guts. I play jazz standard mostly a little Arco and really enjoy using guts for the d and g. One bass I have a,d and g gut.
  14. The finish of the slaps is hard to describe, but is not completely flat.
    The Super Silvers definitely have a very fine nylon wire wound on top.
  15. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I though Super Silvers and Silver Slaps were the same outside of the tension. Your saying that the finish on the outer winding is different?

    - Steve
  16. Yes.
    When you slide your finger over a Super Silver, you'll get a "zip" sound.
    But over a slap, this is something else, although I can't say what at the moment. :)
    It's somewhere between the zip and nothing. (don't laugh! :D
  17. The Silver Slaps have a flat synthetic winding, but you can feel very little gaps on the outer surface where the windings touch their neighbors. The flat synthetic winding probably has rounded edges to avoid a sharp edge sticking out of the surface and hurting the fingers. That's the reason for the little gaps on the surface I think.
  18. Bigbassguy


    Jun 5, 2017
    How does that compare to the rock a Billy string which I fine to be very smooth to the touch.
  19. The RAB's outer winding is wider, like a steel string.
    That also makes them stiffer than Slaps.
  20. Bigbassguy


    Jun 5, 2017
    Thank you Francois