repair/rebuild question

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by y0shimitzu, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. y0shimitzu

    y0shimitzu

    Apr 6, 2008
    Kenosha Wi.
    I picked up a bass the other day and I liked how it looked and felt. I was not crazy about how it sounded. Not a big deal a new setup of pickups and a pre will take care of that. For what ever reason I didn't look that closely at the pickups. Well it turns out on this 4 string "custom" made base who ever built it put in pickup that are emg 645 size. There is over an inch of pickup over and under the strings. So I am stuck with it, but I like the way it feels and plays... I got it under 300.

    This is what I am thinking. I am thinking of using a planer. Take off enough wood off the wings to replace the top. Then just route out the correct route for a 4 string pickup. As well the bass is a tank so I was thinking kill 2 birds with one stone. If I plane the top off I can chamber the bass to lighten the load.

    anyone for see any issues or difficulties with this or have a better solution? I am not sure how hard it would be to separate the wings. The bass has a pretty heavy clear on it as well.

    I have done wood working in the past. Making cabinets and such. I have never done something like this. I am itching to make my own bass. I picked up the wood that I want to put on the top. if this doesnt work out. I will use it in a build :)

    bass1.jpg bass2.jpg
     
  2. y0shimitzu

    y0shimitzu

    Apr 6, 2008
    Kenosha Wi.
    here is the top.

    wood.jpg
     
  3. Lonnybass

    Lonnybass

    Jul 19, 2000
    San Diego
    Endorsing Artist: Pedulla Basses
    Question - does that bass have a butterfly on the headstock?

    Lonnybass
     
  4. y0shimitzu

    y0shimitzu

    Apr 6, 2008
    Kenosha Wi.
    it does have something like a butterfly on the headstock. I am not sure how I am going to remove that as of now. I know it is a fake fodera. I didn't care about that too much.
     
  5. Lonnybass

    Lonnybass

    Jul 19, 2000
    San Diego
    Endorsing Artist: Pedulla Basses
    You could do it pretty easily with a planer, assuming you could remove the neck. If not, I think you'd be stuck with it.

    Lonnybass
     
  6. y0shimitzu

    y0shimitzu

    Apr 6, 2008
    Kenosha Wi.
    I cant take the neck off. I will have to see i can figure something out.
     
  7. I thought EMG's were blade pups. Why do you feel the need to replace?
     
  8. jamminology101

    jamminology101

    Aug 22, 2012
    Indianapolis In
    Endorsing Artist: Glockenklang
    Yeah...I dont think the blades hangin out will matter sonically...u could use those for a 6er but for aesthetics I see where ur comin from...it would look better. I have see some botique builders use those extra long pickups so they can use em for 4 or 5 with different string spacing combos to suit all types of players w/o having to stock a thousand different pickup combos. Go for it....
     
  9. I can see couple ways to do this. Plane the entire face of the bass down with a hand plane. Or cut the wings off and run them through a planer, glue on your top, then glue the wings back on. Or if you wanted the top to cover the entire bass, plane the neck through, glue on the wings then install the full top. You may or may not need to add rails. It's doable, but by the time you get done doing all that, you might as well just build one from scratch.
     
  10. y0shimitzu

    y0shimitzu

    Apr 6, 2008
    Kenosha Wi.
    my original thought was to use a hand planer take off as close to the neck-through as comfy. then use a router to get right up on it. use a straight edge jig and a plunge bit with a guide. as long as the jig is true it would give me a good edge. once the top piece edge is planed flat it should fit nicely.

    specificly on the router bit something like this http://www.toolstoday.com/p-5046-flush-trim-plunge-template-router-bits-w-upper-ball-bearing.aspx


    where are you all getting black veneer? everything I can find is in small pieces.
     
  11. How about just install pickups of your choice and then make nice wooden 'mounting rings?' Easy as pie.
     
  12. "where are you all getting black veneer? everything I can find is in small pieces".

    Yeah, it seems hard to find in anything more than 6" to 8" wide, but I did find it in 16.25"X36" here:

    http://www.dyed-veneer.com/dyed-black-tulipier-veneer-1-2.aspx

    I ended up getting mine at LMI since I ended up not needing anything more that 6" wide, and had a bunch of other stuff to order.
     
  13. y0shimitzu

    y0shimitzu

    Apr 6, 2008
    Kenosha Wi.
    I thought about that. But I could not figure out how to make it look nice... I. Had thought About just getting some custom pickups made as well. But I guess in the end it is gas to do something like building.
     
  14. gbarcus

    gbarcus Commercial User

    Jul 20, 2008
    Minneapolis & St.Paul, MN
    Owner of Barcus Basses barcusbasses.com
    Just another reason not to build copies, it'll end up for sale for $300. :) Not to mention that single-cut neck-thru basses are among the most challenging to build.
    Definitely took some time to build, so not a bad bang for your buck.

    I would leave the pickups and start with a good preamp, seeing that is something you are going to do anyway. You'd be surprised what swapping out just the preamp will do.