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revelation RE fretless

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by dancehallclasher, Jun 16, 2001.


  1. i just got back from guitar center, where i played a fretless warwick corvette... WOW. i had never played a fretless plugged in before, because i figured the intonation would be hard and my brain associates "fretless" with "jaco" so it seemed out of my league.

    but it was SO much fun to play, and not very hard at all to intonate correctly, especially with the little dot markers on the side of the board. i found myself playing familiar lines and hardly making any mistakes at all. plus, now i can see why some people call frets "speed bumps," because my playing seemed so unhindered and lickety split...

    so now i'm jonesing bad for a fretless. how much would it cost to have a bass professionally defretted, and maybe a whole new fingerboard put on?
     
  2. My advice, DONT DO IT YOURSELF, I tried, and failed miserably, I have to sand off the finish for the third time, now the neck is almost useless, good thing its only a $270 bass, but it is my first. Either buy an aftermarket neck or get a pro to do it, I dunno how much it'll set you back though
     
  3. yeah, i thought about doing that, but i definitely don't trust myself to do that kind of job...
     
  4. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    D/H/C ~ Are you talkin' about your Washburn?
    That's a toughie. I was gonna suggest the Warmoth
    Thrift Shop. Maybe there's somethin' in the Miscellaneous
    bass neck section.

    Here's a step-by-step of the de-frettin' of a Tobias
    from the Mike Lull site --> click. Stew Mac has
    all the tools you'll need: solderin' iron, fret pullers,
    slot scraper, I think even filler material. And of course,
    sandpaper and finishing oils.

    In the end though, it may be cheaper just to get
    somethin like a Yamaha RBX260F - lined fretless,
    One P-type pup, light Alder bod. I've got one and
    I think Ulyanov has one too. They're surprisingly
    well built for such li'l $$$. And, the futzin' possibilities
    are numerous :D. First to go on mine was the bridge,
    then the pup. I stuck on a Badass II (a little overkill)
    and a DiMarzio Split P..."blade" style polepieces -
    nice even response.

    I think there are a few on eBay as we speak. Yup -
    just checked. There's even an old RBX200F (missing
    a tone knob) currently at $100.

    Welcome to the land of "smooth sailin' ". Let your ears
    be your guide :p
     
  5. come to think of it, it probably will be too much effort and/or expense to overhaul my current bass rather than buy a new one, but i know the next bass i'm going to get, so i guess i'll put a nice fretless in the "someday" file.

    btw notduane, i was looking around on bassnw at fretless stuff, and stumbled over one of those rob allens that you've got... i was droolin all over my keyboard! those things are gorgeous and i bet they sound wonderful.
     
  6. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    In the meantime, you could always try a set of tapewounds.
    Fret noise durin' gliss', etc. is virtually negligible.
    Thar's beauty in that thar' simplicity :)

    Here's a link to Mr A.'s page --> click. He doesn't
    appear to have updated the site for a while. There
    IS an audio (wav) demo you can check out. Warnin' -
    it's a BIG file and takes what seems like forever
    to download.

    The "Rob Allen" in my sig is a link to his interview at
    bunnybass. Shop tour pics, etc. Bunny~B also has
    some R/A's for sale :eek: git yer lobster bib ready :p .

    ...still waitin' on my double :(
     
  7. notduane was right, I have a Yamaha RBX206F too, it's my main bass. The only problem I've had is that it has a grounding problem, so I should take that in to get fixed, but I don't feel like it right now. Other than that though, it's a good bass, fretless is great fun.
     
  8. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
  9. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    Mr J. strikes again! :D A Dean HBF for $299? I paid
    almost $400 for mine last Christmas. There's some
    fella' been tryin' to sell one on eBay, seems like forever.
    Mid $300's, I think.

    I think you're right about tweakin' the pups. IMO, that
    EMG-HZ just don't get it. I was thinkin' of puttin' a RioGrande
    Powerbucker in the ~HZ's hole. Gotta check the string-
    spacing to see if I get a bridge or neck model. Then all I
    gotta' do is find a place that sells `em :p.

    I know, I know...there'll be some minor surgery required.
    That's what Stew-Mac, Warmoth, and Home Depot is fer :) ...

      [​IMG]

    Another thing I noticed - the "tailpiece". Maybe it was
    the quality control on the one I got (or lack thereof).
    The holes in the tailpiece are way too small. I had
    trouble gettin T/I flats (light gauge) through there.

    ...measure, measure - drill, drill :D
     
  10. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    I didn't buy it, ND...I'm practicing fiscal restraint (not hard when you don't have money;))

    It seems like a great deal on what felt like a very decent bass. I have two other-worldly fretlesses already:D
     
  11. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    I hear dat (dang NASDAQ tech sector).
    The point is, another insanely good deal gravitates
    Mr. J's way. You got the mojo!
    Well yeah. I mean, I got my R/A and then a bunch
    of cheapies for when the futzin' bug strikes.

    BTW...Just fer grins, I looked-up the serial number
    on the fretless Ripper I got from BNW a while back.
    (no futzin' here - it's mint). Anyhoo, near as I could
    figger, it was the 63rd instrument produced on the
    338th day of 1979. Or, the 389th instrument made
    on the 63rd day of 1973 :p .
     
  12. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    And next month someone will email me and ask if it's still available

    :D
     
  13. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
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    A Myrtle R/A beaut just showed-up at BNW --> click
    Like that matching headstock overlay :) .
     
  14. drbottom

    drbottom

    Mar 7, 2001
    Manchester, CT
    It must be something about the warwick corvette fretless--I went into GC to try a different warwick, and ended up buying the warwick corvette fretless, almost without hesitation.

    It plays great, and, like you, I was surprised at how easy it was to play in tune. Maybe its that "deep" warwick neck :)